Q: Take the name of a conveyance in seven letters. Drop the middle letter, and the remaining letters can be rearranged to name the place where such a conveyance is often used. What is it?How close are you to the answer? Are you hot or cold?
Edit: You might see cable gondolas at a ski resort (cold) or gondola baskets below a balloon (hot). But most often you'll see them in the Venice Lagoon.
A: GONDOLA --> LAGOON
Here's my standard reminder... don't post the answer or any hints that could lead directly to the answer (e.g. via a chain of thought, or an internet search) before the deadline of Thursday at 3pm ET. If you know the answer, click the link and submit it to NPR, but don't give it away here.
ReplyDeleteYou may provide indirect hints to the answer to show you know it, but make sure they don't give the answer away. You can openly discuss your hints and the answer after the Thursday deadline. Thank you.
Too bad brook has only 5 letters.
ReplyDeleteTB, Belated birthday greetings!
DeleteMany thanks.
DeleteOne of the hints on the previous page helped me zero in on the conveyance; then I realized what wasn't the place; then I understood the humor in one of the other hints.
ReplyDeleteVitamin? re: us.
DeleteSuperZee's hint got me thinking about those things that dangle from balloons and ski lifts with the same name as canal boats, so when I scanned the list again GONDOLA popped out at me. Immediately, I discerned that the place was ANGOLA, and Googled to discover:
DeleteAngola is a Southern African nation whose varied terrain encompasses tropical Atlantic beaches, a labyrinthine system of rivers and Sub-Saharan desert that extends across the border into Namibia.
Confirmation! But something just didn't sit right. Then I saw my mistake and comprehended jan's hint. I didn't understand WW's comment until she explained it. I thought maybe it had something to do with Vitamin A.
Maybe it's time for new glasses.
Paul, I started with "Vit: re us" but thought perhaps that was too revealing.
DeleteI was convinced (evinced? :-)) your "humor" referred to vitreous humor.
One of my grandmother's favorite jokes: What do you do when a vitamin salesman comes to the door?
Open the door and vite 'im in!
Please join the Society To Repudiate Anagram Puzzles.
ReplyDeleteThese will be the death of me!
eco, may I convey, (not) ants, but support for STRAP.
DeleteJack uses a strap to lash together traps made of parts of tarps to catch a lean sprat.
DeleteLegoWhoBelievesThatUsingTheAnagram-FriendlyAcronym(STRAP)ForAnAntiAnagramSocietyIsSomewhatDubious!
I think I've stumbled upon it by accident. The place name I've heard a number of times on reruns of a classic TV show, but oddly enough they never had this conveyance, nor do I think they ever wanted to make one.
ReplyDeletecranberry, I think I have the same answer. I am struggling on the word "often" in the clue.
Deletesaukriver, I think I have the answer. When I heard the answer to the puzzle for 12/10/17, I had solved it, but I did not think I was correct. I thought the wording was...misleading may be too strong. I just did not like it.
DeleteFor those (like me) who listened to the broadcast while looking at the NPR webpage: EPONYM.
ReplyDelete[but I didn't get UPLAND]
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DeleteIn retrospect, maybe I should have avoided using the word UP. I honestly didn't intend it as a hint.
DeleteI tried to put together some kind of hint about the government taking a few "days off", but couldn't get the two sides of my brain to iron out the details in a timely fashion.
Reminds me of a certain creature.
ReplyDeleteCharles, you con-du-it! Give us a much less revealing clue, please.
DeleteWW - after reading your comment above, I really wanted the answer to be dogsled! I got the intended answer after a two-hour car trip. Some might have expected me to get it more quickly.
DeleteAh, yes, Lorenzo, the concern would have been lodged!
DeleteAnd, yes, I would expect so. . .
(sigh) I thought it was DOGSLED-->D-LODGE, which we all know is the most remote structure at ski resorts and is accessible only by said conveyance.
DeleteArt clue: John Singer Sargent --Margaret G.
ReplyDeleteThis was the one!
DeleteWhat's the biggest bridge in the world?
ReplyDeleteI would have said the dental work in the biggest mouth in the world, but his teeth aren't fake, according to the WH physician. And, like his weight, the information is surely reliable.
DeleteBut that's not your intent, you'll leave us in suspense. In Washington (state) they try to combine the suspense experience.
eco:
DeleteInteresting that you, as I, thought of the dental connection.
As to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. It was rebuilt and now we have two of them due to increased traffic with so many Californians moving up here. Interesting enough we here in Washington State have learned from this experience and straw houses are not allowed due to the chance a big bad wolf may come and huff and puff and blow them down. Tell me, are straw houses allowed in California?
SDB: So this is #FAKE NEWS? Washington has >30 strawbale houses, one around 40 years old. California (which sends people north where life is cheap) has several hundred houses of straw. I've done several, as well as a couple of schools. NYEAH!
DeleteIf we were to take a vote to see which state builds the best strawbale houses, would that be a straw vote?
DeleteBTW, have you read Fire and Fury yet?
Both states would make a lot of hay, then rice up on their sacred oats. With rye humor wheat declare ourselves the winners, but just barley. I'd try to cellulosers on the reality, and control any ill sediments stemming from the results. And alfalfa no stalking at the polls by Chuck Grassley.
DeleteI haven't read Fire and Fury, have you? I prefer to let others do my reading for me, and I'm waiting for it to be remaindered for 1¢. Or when there is a special deal with Media Madness by Fox's Howard Kurtz.
And, in a nod to the PEOTS blog topic this week, I'm also waiting for William Steig's book sequel, "C D P".
Thanks for the PEOTS plug, eco. We are now discussing the pre-LANDSAT Corona Project (in the comments). >>> "Satellites with one (and later two) cameras loaded with 70mm film would orbit the planet, snapping pictures and periodically ejecting a pod of exposed film. As the film fell toward earth beneath a parachute, a passing plane would snatch it out of the sky."
DeleteI am about 2/3 through Fire and Fury, the free Audible version. Lots of salient and spicy details woven together with many 50 cent words. Scheherazadian.
eco:
DeleteOf course I have read Fire and Fury. We here in Seattle not only consider our library to be a cool house for pleasure, but also a hot house for learning. Saturday, a week ago, as I was perusing the recently returned DVD rack, a librarian came up to me with two brand new copies she had just received moments before, and handed me one, knowing I would enjoy it. I returned it Friday. It is not being adequately portrayed in the media.
I have no doubt, during your younger, informative years, you were able to successfully depend on your peers to provide you with reasonably accurate reports of Dick and Jane, which relieved you of having to struggle through those annoying tomes. However, in today's world it seems to me it is increasingly more important that we form our own opinions on important issues.
The Berkeley library currently has 178 holds on the 42 copies of the book they've ordered, so there's no one to hand me a copy.
DeleteI used Cliff's Notes for Dick and Jane. Though this version has some intriguing alternates.
Bonus Fun Anagram: Stormy Daniels can be rearranged to spell "lies most randy". Try your creative hands on this!
I kinda like MISLAYS RODENT.
DeleteWe have 410 copies. King County Library has 332.
I put holds on this book at both our library systems. I would have had to wait a bit to obtain a copy except that Seattle just, last month I think, instituted a new trial program where they are distributing some new books that are popular to the branches with a removable sticker on the cover saying it is non-renewable and cannot be put on hold, and can only be checked out for two weeks, instead of the normal 3 weeks. So, these two copies had just been delivered from the main to the branch I was at and the librarian knew me and that I would most likely want to get my hands on it. Had she put it on the new arrival shelf, it would have gone instantly.
I like the new Dick & Jane better than the earlier version. Did Dick grow up to become a media mogul?
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Pity this doesn't involve British politics, or we could include A MINDLESS TORY.
Don's Ms. Reality
DeleteExcellent. Especially Cranberry, you've outdone yourself. I can add:
DeleteMessy trail, Don
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WS should have Stephanie Clifford as a "Name in the News" next December, but I'm guessing he won't.
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SADLY, ISN'T MORE
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DON, A SLY MISTER?
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Stormy Daniels is a true anagrammer's dream! Trump sure knows how to pick 'em, don't he?
MY SORT'S IN LEAD
DeleteI MADE SLY SNORT
If it were a W instead of an M(by merely turning it upside down, of course), you could get SLOW, NASTY RIDE. (That one's for Legolambda. On Puzzleria!, you do occasionally have to rotate letters so they become others.)
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Gentlemen, you have gone far beyond expectations (which makes up for Stormy's and our disappointments). I had a sense that 5 of the 6 vowels + the RSTLN of Wheel of Fortune fame (+MDS) would work into something, but not this many.
DeleteToo bad WS wouldn't want NPR funding to get further slashed, you've shown it would be a great creative challenge.
And mark your calendars for tonight's episode of Inside Edition, which anagrams to "Don denies it II"
DeleteTimberline?
ReplyDeleteSome of the messages above evince that I have got the answer, and some do not. I wonder if I have an alternative? Will learn on Thursday.
ReplyDeleteI am wondering that, too! Guess we'll see on Thursday.
DeleteA standard Sunday morning insult:
ReplyDelete"And then do you-know-what to the result."
It may just be sour grapes, but I really wonder about the claim of 300 correct responses to last week's challenge.
I wish I was surprised by Will's celebrity hero.
Now back to trying to find a 7 letter synonym for deed.
Exploit
DeleteI love it when I can solve the puzzle without getting up and outta bed. This time I heard the question and thought about it a bit and fell back to sleep. When I awoke I quickly narrowed it down and had the answer.
ReplyDeleteThis puzzle made me a little sad.
ReplyDeleteA wagonload of thought may not be required to convey a solution to this puzzle.
ReplyDeleteI didn’t have trouble with this at all.
ReplyDeleteI'm leery of some of the clues above but happy to report that I've solved the puzzle two weeks in a row. See ya next week.
ReplyDeleteMusical clue: Madonna
ReplyDeleteThat's too much of a give, I think. Why not Michael Jackson?
ReplyDeleteTo me, the image of Madonna dancing in her underwear on a Gondola in a lagoon is too strong. First impressions are powerful, you know.
DeleteSo I thought more about Michael Jackson, who was friends with Brooke Shields, who we first met half naked in BLUE LAGOON. That seemed slier by half.
This wasn't the only instance. Not a clue.
ReplyDeleteI had to be both skillful and wary to get this.
ReplyDeleteIt is so interesting how the Republicans in Congress will unite to the death to stand up to the Democrats, but the Democrats will come together in order to cave in to the Republicans. Does anyone stand up for the citizens of this country?
ReplyDeleteSDB - I was hoping things would turn out different but Trump has control of all the levers & buttons to sway public opinion. All the Trump loyalists had to do, to sway public opinion, was to bring up "helping Americans first". Schumer just didn't have a good response.
DeleteLet's see what hapens in 17 days when all this comes up again.
At least the CHIP program was funded for six years.
Where was Trump during all this controversy??? Rumor has it that his advisers deliberately kept him out of any meetings so they could minimize his impact, i.e. not screw it up for them.
At least he can go to Davos Switzerland now & party with the elite of the elite for a few days.
I'm not optimistic but let's see what happens in 17 days.
You know what will happen in 17 days. NOTHING!
DeleteTrump and the Republicans want ALL of the non-white people out of this country now. They are not going to say this publicly, and why should they, when it works so much better for them when they say they want to help them but do nothing? When they achieve this they will get white, non-rich, people to do their scrubbing for them because there will be no jobs since Trump will "save" them by pushing corporations out of the country.
Like they say, "don't go by what he says, go by what he does".
DeleteSeems like forever until the mid-terms.
SDB: I like the way you phrased your thoughts. I am so disgusted with what went on today with the Democrats. No one seems to care about this sham. Democrats obviously do not care about citizens. I may as well vote Republican.
ReplyDeleteNatasha - AAAHHHH!!!
Delete68Charger: Hi! Cannot solve puzzle. Waiting til Thursday.
ReplyDeleteDarn, I'd like to give some clues but this one is tough to do without giving it away.
DeleteMy clue was easy to come up with, but not obvious.
DeleteI still wonder if there are two possible answers.
DeleteI have come up with two.
DeleteVery good, all I have is the one! Everyone's clues seem to suggest there's another one out there.
DeleteIt will be interesting to hear the answers on Thursday!
DeleteLatin
ReplyDeleteThe answer to the place part has two different meanings. That stinks!
ReplyDeleteOnly occasionally.
DeleteThis is also not a clue.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I guarantee that the conveyance I came up with to answer the puzzle does NOT appear anywhere in the attached video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0zb_baTzkk&t=47s
But as long as Hugh is posting old people driving on road shoulders, I can't miss posting David Lynch's "The Straight Story" here.
WARNING: the attached clip contains absolutely none of the creepy weirdness associated with Mr. Lynch. Sorry!
I have two fairly credible answers, each with interesting bits of circularity.
ReplyDeleteCircularity is to be expected when one is riding the two-legged anagram horse I mentioned a few weeks ago.
I realized later that I was only thinking of horses with their legs on one side or the other, not front/back or on the corners, making for six possible configurations, each with its own required riding style.
I also mentioned phredp based on a post from ten years ago. I think he has been gone, but that may be a figment of my memory. In any case, he is either back (Welcome!) or still here.
If you have the right answer you should readily see it. Or perhaps not.
DeleteGee, thanks eco. Or perhaps not.
DeleteI'm just playing head games with ya!
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DeleteMendo Jim...still alive and well.
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More ?????? from jimmy.
DeleteThere is one amusement park somewhere in North America - Mexico, United States, or Canada - that shares this place name.
ReplyDeleteAre you conveyed by your destiny?
DeleteOnly by my Euro-destiny...
DeleteGONDOLA, LAGOON
Delete"Vitamin? re: (o)us." was a play off jan's Venetian blind clue >>> eye >>> vitreous humour.
"Latin" refers to the phrase "Veni, Vedi, Vici" and Venice.
GONDOLA minus D = LAGOON
ReplyDeleteMy Hint:
“When I awoke I quickly narrowed it down and had the answer.” Gondolas are narrow hulled boats.
gondola --> lagoon
ReplyDelete"These will be the death of me!" referred to Thomas Mann's "Death in Venice". You can donate to STRAP, donations are tax deductible to the extent allowed by law, which is not at all.
"If you have the right answer you should readily sea it. Oar perhaps not. I'm just playing scull games with ya!
GONDOLA -> LAGOON
ReplyDelete> You'd have to be blind not to see this.
Venetian blinds don’t seem to have started in Venice. So why are they called that?
> What's the biggest bridge in the world?
The bridge of size?
When I close my Venetian blinds, I cannot see Venice. Or Venus. Or Madonna.
DeleteScull your GONDOLA (- D) around the canals of the Venetian LAGOON. See it from space HERE.
ReplyDeleteMy hint: “WAGONLOAD” (- WA) anagrams to GONDOLA.
MUST READ BOOK
ReplyDeleteThe City of Falling Angels by John Berendt
This is the next best thing to actually going to Venice.
I wrote, "Some of the messages above evince that I have got the answer, and some do not." "Evince" is an anagram of Venice.
ReplyDeleteEvince? Isn't that My Cousin Vincent/Vinny's electronic presence?
DeleteI associate gondolas with canals, but Venice is also known as The Lagoon City.
ReplyDeleteMany report that Venice has a slightly s***hole smell; alluded to above is the fact that part of wastewater treatment plants are called lagoons.
I kind of like SCOOTER and ESCORT too, as in parades and corteges. Just to round it out the Ford Escort is another conveyance.
I was thinking SCOOTER and SECTOR, as in "In order to maximize pedestrian safety, the use of scooters will be limited to one sector of the city."
DeleteWhat about 'Handcar' --- 'A Ranch'
ReplyDeleteGondola was on wheel of fortune this week.
ReplyDeleteNatasha, I searched online and found this:
DeleteMaybe they get a ride through the stinkier part of the lagoon.
Too bad brook has only 5 letters. But Brooke has 6. Brooke Shields starred in "Blue Lagoon".
DeleteI was surprised no one referred gently to Iceland or geothermal pools. . .
DeleteI've been to Iceland, and I don't remember seeing a single gondola there...
Deleteeco, I hope this won't cause a mid-Atlantic rift between us.
Deleteeco:
DeleteWhat a shame you had to travel all the way to Iceland only to discover they don't have gondolas there.
Word Woman,Thank you for the link. I must have seen a rerun this week as the link shows this puzzle was given in August. Anyway,I was not smart enough to see the connection to this week's puzzle.
ReplyDeleteGONDOLA, LAGOON
DeleteMy clues had to do with "Gilligan's Island", which had a LAGOON to which they constantly referred, and the "Like A Virgin" video, where the Material Girl herself can be seen writhing around on a GONDOLA. Also, a particular Warner Bros. cartoon came to mind Sunday afternoon after, as I explained the puzzle to my mom, I had inadvertently pronounced the word gon-DO-la. Silly me!
Actually it is pronounced with both O's as in OWN. GONE-DALLA is just the way Americans mispronounce it. GOHN-DOHLA
DeleteCitation?
DeleteThe Italian version.
DeleteThe American, or CORRECT, version for both the boat and the freight car.
Those are not the pronunciations I got when listening to Italians pronouncing gondola at English to Italian sites via Google.
DeleteCORRECTION TO MY ABOVE POST
DeleteI think I must have opened eco's American link, thinking I had opened the Italian link. I went back to listen again, and discovered my error. Sorry, his Italian link if correct.
IS correct
DeleteMy hint was that I didn’t have trouble with it AT ALL. Which sounds like ATOLL, which is a ring of islands surrounding a LAGOON.
ReplyDeleteGONDOLA....LAGOON
ReplyDeleteI was intrigued to note the number of different conveyances called gondola. In addition to the flat bottomed boats of Venice and rail cars, there are: gondolas under dirigibles, blimps and hot air balloons; gondolas on aerial tramways and ski lifts, and gondolas on large Ferris Wheels like the London Eye.
It made me wonder if there are other instances where the same name is used to used a conveyance used in land, water and in the air. The best I’ve come up with is ship. But that required me to include camels as, “ships of the desert.”
Any others?
Cabin.
DeleteOops...Should read, “...is used for a conveyance...”
ReplyDeleteMy clues - leery for gondolier; two weeks in a "row" for rowing a gondola.
ReplyDeleteAcqua alta in Paris. The Venice of France? Gondolas on the Seine, anyone?
ReplyDeleteSo perhaps that Wheel of Fortune guy (see link above) was actually prescient. . .
Deletejan, those photos are Seine-sational.
DeleteAnd the NPR newscaster, speaking about the Paris floods, just said "Lerve Museum?" What is happening?!
DeleteWW:
DeleteI think you may have heard it incorrectly. I heard the same broadcast and was surprised that Eleanore Beardsley actually pronounced it correctly with the Re at the end. To make certain I had heard it as I recall I went back and listened to it several times just now. You can locate it online. When I first visited Paris in 1965 I was very surprised to find it is not pronounced LOOV, but the Re is included, although without emphasis.
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/500005/npr-news-now
No, it was a male voice and it was definitely "Lerve." The rebroadcast was correctly pronounced by Ms. Beardsley. The first time was unlerving.
DeleteInteresting. I listened to it at different times. They seem to be broadcasting it every other hour, leapfrog (pun unintended) fashion. Can't locate the male voice you heard, but would love to hear it just for laughs. Although she must have been disturbed, I suspect Mona Lisa didn't even bat an eye.
DeleteBut did the Venus de Milo issue a call to arms?
DeleteNo, I'm afraid she didn't even lift a finger to help.
DeleteI should point out, however, that Victory is waiting in the Wings.
DeleteTrump was in Paris for Bastille Day last year. Didn't he say something about, "Après moi le déluge"?
DeleteHe was and is délugional.
DeleteWonder if he learned anything about what can happen to the head of state if the people get too pissed off?
DeleteI think it will take more than a flow chart to understand Trump.
DeleteWe're waiting for that video. C'mon Russians.
DeleteI am not particularly interested in viewing porn videos. But if Trump is featured, well, I can hardly resist.
DeleteI think a golden shower would match very well with a golden toilet.
Delete"The artist “would like to offer it to the White House for a long-term loan,” wrote Spector, who has been critical of Trump."
DeleteCouldn't Spector have just said: "Toilet to let" and leave it at that?
"President Trump said on Wednesday that he was willing and eager to be interviewed by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential campaign, insisting that he has done nothing wrong. “I'm looking forward to it, actually,” Mr. Trump ..."
ReplyDeleteI guess this means he has no intention of participating in this interview with Mueller, and will now come up with some cockamamie excuse for why he cannot do it, but hopefully leaving the fake impression that he wants to. This is classic Trump.
You know Donny has no intention of meeting with Mueller! I've never believed him from the start, especially on this subject!
DeleteBTW, I still think it is very "interesting" that Melania didn't go to Davos with Donny J.
She probably didn't want to interfere with his mistress. You know; sharing bathrobes and stuff.
DeleteI hope she's talking with divorce lawyers.
DeleteI found it interesting that there was no mention of their wedding anniversary last Monday, and more telling that her official tweet about 1 year in office had no mention or photo of the orange one. Given how he loves attention he must be fuming.
In the Midwest, a lagoon takes the place of a cesspool thus my reference to its stink.
ReplyDeleteThat brings to mind a guy in a runabout, not a gondola!
DeleteThat clip had a familiar ring to it.
DeleteThe canals in Venice often stink of sewage, so your reference was apt in any case.
DeleteThat is why I posted:
Delete"Only occasionally."
Well, now I understand why none of the clues made sense to me. I figured the answer was RAILWAY and AIRWAY. You often see trains at the airport.
ReplyDeleteI guessed it would be JETPACK and JACKET (where you wear the transport device).
DeleteNext week's challenge: This challenge comes from listener Stuart Portnoy of Arlington, Va. Name a famous actor — first and last names. The last name is a well-known brand. Drop the last letter of the first name and you'll get the kind of product it's a brand of. Who is it?
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of harriso do I drive? A Ford, of course. And that is a clue.
DeleteHmm... I found a brand that might have been well-known around about the time my parents were born, but I don't think that's it.
DeleteNice clue jan!
DeleteThe actor, in one of his more famous roles, and the product, are both cloaked in darkness.
ReplyDeleteOver 500 correct answers this week.
ReplyDeleteAnd when shopping for a rober for my underarms, I choose Mitchum.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite garbage can, and a bargain at $790.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why I'm up so early to try and answer this one. Force of habit, I guess.
ReplyDeleteTV clue #1: Jimmy Fallon on SNL
TV clue #2: The Simpsons
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Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of IKEA, died yesterday. He'll be buried as soon as they find the little hex wrench to assemble his Torbjörn casket.
ReplyDeleteHas Trump tried to sell his (hair) do?
ReplyDeleteIs "Pitt" a well-known brand of ladies undergarment?
ReplyDeleteAsk Pruner Sunsweet or Dogfoody Alpo.
DeleteBlaine, I thought you were hinting at VenICE, and sea-level rise caused by global warming.
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