Q: Take a seven-by-seven square grid. Arrange the names of U.S. cities or towns in regular crossword fashion inside the grid so that the cities used have the highest possible total population, according to the 2010 Census. For example, if you put Chicago in the top row and Houston in the sixth row, both reading across, and then fit Atlanta, Oakland and Reno coming down, you'll form a mini-crossword. And the five cities used have a total population, according to the 2010 census, of 5,830,997. You can do better. (Note: This is a two-week challenge)The first problem is going to be finding a list of U.S. cities by their 2010 census values, to match Will's example. Using the values from Wikipedia, I get a slightly higher value of 5,831,809 for his example grid. And trying to go to census.gov returns a message that it is closed due to the government shutdown. My other issue with this puzzle is whether or not common abbreviations like LA and NYC will be accepted. I hope Mr. Shortz will post here and clarify his intentions with the puzzle, or at least give more details next week on the air. In any case, this one will be a hard puzzle to discuss or hint at since there aren't really any good ways to give a hint. Even giving your population total will give too much away, so I think it's going to be a hard two weeks to comment.
Update: Using a revised list from Wikipedia showing the Top 25 U.S. cities, I get the exact same values as Will:
Chicago = 2,695,598
Houston = 2,099,451
Atlanta = 420,003
Oakland = 390,724
Reno = 225,221
TOTAL = 5,830,997
Edit: The winning entry from Glen, accepted by Will:
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Here's my standard reminder... don't post the answer or any hints that could lead directly to the answer (e.g. via a chain of thought, or an internet search) before the deadline of Thursday at 3pm ET. If you know the answer, click the link and submit it to NPR, but don't give it away here.
ReplyDeleteYou may provide indirect hints to the answer to show you know it, but make sure they don't give the answer away. You can openly discuss your hints and the answer after the Thursday deadline in two weeks. Thank you.
I have Houston = 2 100 263, not your number. The others I agree with. I am using:
Deletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
If you count NEWYORK = 8,175,133 that by itself beats Will's total.
DeleteAs for Houston, the lower number (2,099,451), not 2,100,263, seems more accurate. See Demographics of Houston by year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Houston
I have a grid containing 6 cities. Is this giving away too much information ? If so just delete this.
DeleteKeep looking, Ron.
DeleteRon, that was exactly my dilemma -- which list of populations to use. Using that first list, I get the slightly higher total, as I noted previously. In order to get the total that Will provided, I had to use the alternate census for Houston. It seems that the 2,099,451 was retrieved from census.gov in July and the other page used an earlier retrieval. So perhaps the numbers were reduced downward based on a mistake or other double-counting.
DeleteAgain, it would have been nice if Will had provided a link to a definitive list of populations we should be using. I don't think Will counted on census.gov being shutdown.
Thanks Blaine.
DeleteI now have a grid containing 7 cities. I hope this doesn't give too much away.
Apparently the Houston population of 2,099,451 was revised upward in December of 2012. Will's example total uses the older count.
DeleteAt this point, with census.gov being down, and Wikipedia having the latest total now on that page, I'm going to use List of US Cities by Population. It lists 289 cities with populations over 100,000.
I also found this site useful (for smaller cities & towns, to try to fill the chinks in the grid): www.biggestuscities.com
DeletePerhaps the discrepancies appear in figures including inflated numbers of voters as opposed to registered voters in urban areas. Just sayin'. :-)
DeleteLike a high school detention punishment!
ReplyDeleteI guess it's assumed that the same city cannot be entered more than once?
ReplyDeleteI think your assumption has to be correct. Otherwise there would be trivial answers with 4 CHICAGOs or 2 NEWYORKs that rack up big scores.
DeleteOr four NEWYORKs...
DeleteA good week to practice our silence ;-).
ReplyDeleteBlaine, I had the same question about LA, NYC, and, of course, KLMZ, MI.
I would guess that LA and NYC aren't kosher. But what about NEWYORK?
ReplyDeleteI'm doing my work with the premise that NEWYORK is kosher. And, since it has, by far, the largest population of any U.S. city, it will also do good things for the total. Any other opinions on the matter?
Delete"[R]egular crossword fashion" would accept NEWYORK. I also guess that STLOUIS would be allowed. Will?
DeleteI’m sure I won’t be attempting to solve this puzzle. No criticism for Will – in general I love the Sunday puzzle segment. But for some reason this puzzle strikes me as too tedious, boring and time-consuming.
ReplyDeleteChuck
I am going to leave this one to the computer experts in the group. I know I would get nowhere on my own. Even so, I'm surprised that Will refers to entering the city names in "regular crossword fashion." His example as given uses a style of crossword I associate with My Weekly Reader or the like. I haven't seen TV Guide in years, but I imagine even their crossword uses symmetry etc. I know there is a name for this extremely loose style, but I can't think of it.
ReplyDeleteSo I will be out for another two weeks, after having been out on vacation the last two weeks. I thought two weeks back that my carbon monoxide detector might give some peace of mind ( CO ALARM - CALM ), but last wee, I must protest, I have never once heard Will's seven word version of the "familiar saying" used, only the nine word version.
I have to agree with you. This puzzle is an assault on the census!
DeleteThis is not a clue but an appeal for help. Can anyone tell me how to put a 7x7 crossword grid on the submit answer page. Just in case I can find some answer? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteSee Enya_and_Weird_Al_fan's posting at the end of last week's blog, e.g.
DeleteOr, you could describe your grid verbally, as Will did in his example.
DeleteI posted on Sun Oct 13, at 06:27:00 AM PDT on last week's thread something similar to the following: (initially I had to repost the simpler grid.)
DeleteI've devised the following grid to help out:
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The reason I've included the single-line cross-hairs inside each double-bordered square is that to post solutions here (two Thursdays from now, of course!) and not have them look like a bunch of misaligned junk, you'll need to replace the single-line crosses with letters. Had the letters been placed with a space before and after, then the rows with spaces would look a lot narrower than the border rows. Even this way they won't be perfectly aligned, but they should look somewhat decent. For example:
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Not perfectly aligned, but still looks pretty decent.
And for those who'd just like a simple grid that they can use with their text editor, just select, copy and paste this:
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Like I said, looks crappy here, but in your text editor, it'll look great!
I regret that I am unable to fit BLAINE (MN), a metropolis of 59,412, into my grid, so far.
ReplyDeleteBlaine, How would you feel about us posting a round number that is less than the total 2010 population of the cities in our answer? That way, others can know if the answer they've found is approximately OK, or if they've got a better one, or if they need to keep looking, without making the correct answer computable.
ReplyDeleteI'm worried that if we provide any details on our totals, it will give people insight into how others are progressing on this challenge or still give them a way to "reverse engineer" the list of cities used, or at least the top scoring cities. It will also give people too much information on how others are doing and where their answer ranks. This time I think it actually better if people have to guess how good their answer is and just submit hoping that their answer is best.
DeleteBy the way, this "problem" of comparing numbers secretly is known as secure multiparty computation, and was proposed as "Yao's Millionaires' Problem" as a toy problem of secret salary comparison.
DeleteI don't pretend to understand how it works (yet), and I can't find website or software to help us do this, but it's an interesting issue!
Two things (since there likely won't be as much discussion as usual over the fortnight):
ReplyDelete1) For Mark Twain fans (his name comes up often here):
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/21/172553846/book-news-even-mark-twain-has-a-shirtless-picture-on-the-internet
2) I posted this late last week. I am still curious as to why 'W' is not mentioned as being a letter that can be both a vowel and a consonant. I know it's pretty rare but it does happen. "Sometimes Y and rarely W?"
"I have wondered all week about the consonant/vowel swinger Y and the swinger W in our alphabet and why W never gets called out in the realm of 'sometimes.' "
Diphthongingly,
W.W. (live from the Welsh valley of CWM)
['ardly anyone in the cirque this beautiful day]
In the meantime, I was surprised to see Denver was not in the top 25 in 2010 (though it is now).
Back to ironing out this grid. . .
"I goT RHYTHM, I got good times" was my answer, but "A, E, I, O, U" wass not scoped out.
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ReplyDeleteMy answer has 7 cities, 33 boxes.
DeleteI should say, my answer SO FAR has those stats. I plan to keep looking.
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ReplyDeleteWill, you disappoint me. Catch you all in a couple of weeks.
ReplyDeleteI made a submission which I thought at the time was the ultimate. Then A FEW MINUTES LATER I submitted a better solution, asking them to please disregard my earlier submission and accept my new one, which I really believe IS the ultimate this time.
ReplyDeleteBOTH of my submissions use only 5 cities and take up only 30 of the 49 squares.
I got the five cities, 30/49 squares solution as well. If a better one exists, I don't have the patience to find it.
DeleteWhat about commonly used abbreviations such as MT for "Mount" as in "Mt Kisco", "Mt Adams" "Mt Airy", etc. or ST for "Saint" as in "St. Louis," "St. Paul", "St. Elmo", "St. Clair", 'St. Joe", etc. or "FT" for "Fort" as in "Ft Worth", "Ft Wayne", "Ft Bragg", etc.? Not that any of these are answers, but it would be an interesting possibility to speculate on nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteBTW, it's likely while there may be only one correct answer, there will be many interesting answers based on number of cities, number of squares filled, how they're arranged, etc. Let's put it on our Outlook calendar (or other favorite scheduler) to enter our submissions at 3 PM Eastern on Thursday, 10/24/13, just to compare what we've been able to create.
Lastly, to the first timer from last week, I'm sure by now that you're getting the hang of what this blog is all about. Obviously, this week's challenge is atypical. My suggestion for what to post to future blogs is to review the blogs for previous weeks, note the correct answer for that week's puzzle, then work backwards to see how the various puns, phrases, anagrams, etc. relate to that week's ansswer. You'll find it to be as much fun as much as it is for us "veterans"!
Based on my limited research on the internet, it appears that the actual city names are:
ReplyDeleteSt. Louis (stlouis-mo.gov)
Saint Paul (www.stpaul.gov)
After spending way too much time trying to improve my grid, with way too little improvement in total population, I'm calling it done. (Unless someone posts something very interesting.) I've got 9 cities & towns (5 of which you've heard of), filling 32 of the 49 boxes.
ReplyDelete9 cities is quite good, but the question is the population, right? I can get 7 cities, all well known, with 33 squares filled. Can we say roughly where our population is, or will that incur our host's ire?
DeleteChrysanthemum's the word on the population. See Blaine's comments above. Thanks.
DeleteI suppose another question (for Will) is if NewYork is acceptable for New York City, is Kansas acceptable for Kansas City?
DeleteYes, ecoarchitect, the city count isn't really relevant, just a slight hint as to my approach, the goal of which is to maximize total population. Blaine doesn't want us to discuss even rough population numbers before the contest deadline.
DeleteCan we post a coded question, which can be decoded only by a key that is our population total, and which anyone able to decode the question can answer and then recode and paste here? For example, a question would be: 4D9B5E0F1FBDAD5CD9135B925F4F99F3B8A0065561DC94553F66B703C782529C3BB8B491DC86C3B2F4F2A4E6
ReplyDelete(I won't post a link to how to decode this into a question, but my population total would do so.)
Cam, I think your parenthetical note has it backwards. I think you should tell us how, given a certain total, to then use it to decode a question, then post a new, differently coded question, decipherable only to someone who happens to enter your total as the key.
DeleteI propose you post an example: The puzzle itself gave an example and its total, and Blaine, near the start of this blog, said from it he had arrived at the total of 5,831,809. So let's use that number. Why don't you encode a sample question and then show us how to use 5,831,809 to decode it? Then you can post a different question coded to your total!
Like totally, Man. I totally agree! :-)
DeleteOK, here goes nothing. This is the site to decode my message: http://www.topsecretemail.com/Decode_Message.cfm. If you paste in the hex string from my message, and then use your population total as the key, you will get a plain English result that is a question (but only if your population total exactly matches mine. I am using the 2010 census exact population results, including any official corrections. The answer to my question has nothing to do with this week's puzzle, so if you want to post it here, that would be one interesting way to see if anyone is on the same page without giving away what my total is, per Blaine's rule.
DeleteI'm afraid the encoding/decoding is less sophisticated that you may have been thinking, E_a_W_A_f. But here is a different question, encoded using the population total Will Shortz announced on air (no commas in the number): 7A758FC516D690B6AD5F568603075F9982AC475392960692AFFF5CA64382DE8E6A3352999F9A8F1DD1EB39AEAF83A0E9629697ABBD9296D31292BB4C6B1B9B9B558298968758DCD5C4B7B392C7965D1F4AAE97B51FD2B2CA838CCB5C87508AB2529AAA3D
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DeleteMy city counts as a double dipper, how does that count? Just as the higher one?
ReplyDeleteMy cities have an interesting property which I'll reveal in a week (3 PM Thursday, 10/24/13).
ReplyDeleteAlso, in response to the earlier post regarding Kansas City: that is the official name of the cities in Missouri and Kansas bearing that name, whereas "New York" is the official name of the largest US city. I think our guidance should be the US postal address, or whatever is shown as the name on maps. Thus, the correct names for the cities in question are "Kansas City" and "New York."
Blaine:
ReplyDeleteI've thought of a way that we could provide clues to our totals. Suppose I posted concerning my total:
If you divide my total by <4-digit number #1> and take its remainder, then divide my total by <4-digit number #2> and take its remainder, then the two remainders add up to exactly <blank>.
Then maybe someone else replies: "I think I may have found your solution! Tell me, if you divide your total by <replier's own 4-digit number #1> and <replier's own 4-digit number #2>, then those remainders add up to exactly <blank>?"
Anyway, would that exchange be acceptable?
Well I decided I was not going to waste my time on this one, and I was way too busy until this evening anyway. After a hectic day (does that mean you don't believe in God?) I ended up enjoying an Emerson String Quartet performance at the UofW Meany Theatre and got to thinking about it a bit. I came up with an answer that may not be the highest total, but could be. It uses five cities and 30 squares as mentioned above. I wonder if it is the same one. Anyway whether it is or isn't I really don't care that much because I solved it in my head without anything to help me, i.e. pen and paper. I just used logic. Of course now I am back home I had to look up the census figures. I also came up with a hint at my answer which is: I had to lock up my liquor cabinet before I could solve it. If that clue makes any sense, or census, to you, please post here and I will know you have the same answer.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't expect Will to comment here before clarifying this Sunday. He would think it gave us Blainites an "unfair advantage". We are all going to have one particular city, probably several in common, and then will be vying to get up our totals by working in lesser cities and scrambling for crumbs in the form of 100K additions. I'm guessing there will be less than a hundred "correct" answers with identical assemblages and thus "luck" will still be the determining factor. I hope I didn't give away too much, senor B.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you all think about townships? Are they allowable? I've got a six-city solution right now that could be improved with the use of a township. Fair game?
ReplyDeleteWill said, "cities or towns". I say, go for it.
ReplyDeleteI went without it. I'm up to 9 cities now. Wikipedia and I are getting to be best friends...
ReplyDeleteCheck that. I'm at 8 cities. Hope my math is better than that on my total.
DeleteA ghost town?
ReplyDeleteAnd we thought we had population counting issues before...;-)
DeleteI find ghost towns are useful for connecting various parts of the
Deletecrossword pattern. As long as it is a real town that had a
positive population earlier but now has no population, I think
it is just fine to use.
Somebody may have lived there in 2010, but I would need to edit Wikipedia to inflate my answer.
DeleteI decided that to be really certain of the highest population total it would be helpful to think outside the box. It seems to be working for me as I am now up to 57 squares and counting on finding more.
ReplyDeleteA Möbius crossword! Clever.
DeleteYes, and I'll give a small hint here too. One of my cities is Mobius, Alabama.
DeleteLoop, I thought surely you would weigh in on the Möbius strip discussion. . .
DeleteLoop doesn't want in this conversation because he can see no end to it.
DeleteSo, skydiveboy, this week I have missed your endless banter.
DeleteI am certainly sorry for not weighing in on this conversation as it has been a busy week. My days have seemed like they're on a continuous...no, I won't do that. Just adjusting to married life (no real adjustments except for having to write out "thank you" cards.) I will have to come up with a witty zinger and get back to you on this mobius discussion.
DeleteIn adjusting to married life, you'll find that all your arguments are one-sided.
Delete"Yes, dear." and "As usual, you are right, dear." Practice these phrases carefully and often ;-)
DeleteAlso, "Are you kidding?! Your butt looks amazingly sexy in those jeans!"
DeleteOr, Uncle John, if you are a DNA researcher, "...in those genes!"
DeleteOr what I think when at the grocery store: "With YOUR genes, not THOSE jeans." Of course these days it's sweats or pajama bottoms...in public...who raised these people?!
DeleteI fund that our argumentd are two-sided. On one side I lose and on the other she wins. Ah, the best of both worlds.
Delete1 o'clock Eastern time. Thought I'd post my answer. Just kidding!
ReplyDeleteHope everyone is having an awesome week.
Sure. Scouring lists of one-horse towns with short names is certainly MY idea of awesome!
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ReplyDeleteNow that census.gov is back online, I've compiled a master list of U.S. cities and towns, sorted by population, that was derived directly from the reported figures in the 2010 census (caution: 6.1 MB).
ReplyDelete• The list of U.S. cities and towns, sorted by population (18,088 entries, 422 KB).
• The above, but with the city and town names stripped of non-alphabetic characters (418 KB).
• The above, but only including names of length seven or less (8,120 entries, 172 KB).
A Brown out shout out in the puzzle this morning.
ReplyDeleteJust heard the shout out to Brown. Thanks for the heads-up, zeke.
DeleteA shout out to the new Smith President and a story from Friday:
In honor of President McCartney's inaugural weekend, I wore my Smith pin yesterday. One of the kindergarten students asked me about it.
"Oh, this is from Smith College. Remember that, it's a great place to go!"
"Where is it?"
"Massachusetts."
"Oh, I'm not allowed to go any place by myself."
Just you wait, girl!
Word Woman
(Africa! Africa! Africa!)
I waited until I heard the puzzle on air today before sending in my entry, in case Will revealed any new information, which he did not.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how he will define "correct" entries this week? Do they have to have the absolute maximal population, or will entries that include the bigger cities but miss one of the little towns than can be fit into the grid count? What if Will has found a better solution than any listener?
A curious puzzle. My typical ideal is doing the puzzles in the car, and they can almost always be solved that way. Any time I have to resort to looking things up online is kind-of cheating. Of course, in this case, it's completely impossible -- you need to get the census data. As other people suggested, the www.biggestuscities site gives the exact values that Will quotes in his puzzle, so I went with that.
ReplyDeleteWriting a program to create a crossword puzzle was a lot of fun. My result has seven cities. I wasn't sure whether Will's "standard crossword" rules include the typical rule that all letters must be connected, that there be no independent islands of interlocking letters.
A more exhaustive search (I think I searched every possible solution) yields an 8-word list which i think is optimal, given the 8000 or so cities posted above.
DeleteIt occurs to me there is indeed a way for us to check if we have the same answers as each other, without revealing the specific answer and without even revealing population totals, boxes filled, or number of cities used, and the answer is a one-way hashing function like MD5 or SHA-1. (An online tool for calculating the SHA-1 of input text is here.)
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that needs to be standardized for this to work is the notation we use for our grids. I propose all upper-case alphabetic characters, and the use of an asterisk (*) for blank boxes. In addition, since a reflection along the upper-left-to-lower-right diagonal results in an equivalent grid, I suggest the input take the form of only those seven boxes that lie along this diagonal, since this is the same in both grids. (In theory this would increase the chance of a collision, but there's still 27^7 ~ 10.46 billion possibilities so this isn't much of a concern in practice.)
So, for instance, Will Shortz's example grid would be transcribed as C***NOD, which has the SHA-1 hash PUycPQw+9p3ReHEf3Ru43cA2VNM= (in base64), or d5df34d295574e89835606c30f058764f3d47410 (in hexadecimal). (Here's online tools for converting hex to base64, and for converting base64 to hex.)
Okay, I'll start. My best answer so far has the (SHA-1 base64) hash 1frQKuEG6rEQcQQ4dgDFoHLbcyI=.
Let the hashing begin!
The puzzle for me this week is why they invited a nit-wit to play the on-air quiz with Will. Was Michelle Bachmann too busy crocheting tea cozies for her colleagues? Of course Poundstone couldn't get the Africa answer—Americans think Africa is a country, not a continent. Most probably also think those who reside there are incontinent, and they may have been if they were listening to that travesty.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of ungodly debacles. If the House decides to dump Champion of Idiocy, John Boehner, and replace him with Michelle Bachmann as Speaker, do you suppose she will use a croquet mallet for the gavel in order to compliment her other subtleties?
Hey, I love Paula Poundstone. She is in fact quick on her feet, and a hilarious comic. Listen to her sometime on "Wait wait don't tell me". And Will did nothing to clarify, so I say we use the 3-letter codes used for airports!
ReplyDeleteSlightly bummed by a posting on another puzzle blog by someone with a higher population total than mine. But, I'm glad that only one entry per person is allowed, because I do NOT want to work on this anymore. Looking forward to the post-3pm EDT discussion tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I like Paula Poundstone, too, but I can understand why she's not everyone's cup of tea.
I agree, Jan!
DeleteSubmitted mine to NPR and to the guys at the other puzzle blog. It will at least be posted over there in case I am knee-deep in chromium-6 analyses.
Bring on the new puzzle, please, Will!
Just to box myself in:
ReplyDeleteIf population grand total is AAA,BBB,CCC
Then AAA+BBB+CCC for my answer is 991.
Sunday's final answer will be interesting.
Well, my total is AA,BBB,CCC,DDD
Delete13,317,860 population total of seven cities/towns from 2010 census.
ReplyDeleteDOWN:
Houston 2,099,451
Saginaw 51,508
Chicago 2,695,598
Newark 277,140
ACROSS:
Sac, Iowa 2,220
Ada, Oklahoma 16,810
New York 8,175,133
H_ SAC
O_ A_H_N
U_ G_ I_ E
S__I_ C_W
T_ N_ADA
O_ A_G_ R
NEWYORK
As it is now 3:01 on the East Coast...My best result -- with Planned Chaos' database above -- is as follows:
ReplyDeleteN E W Y O R K
E M N
C H I C A G O
E X H X
D A L L A S
A
H O U S T O N
New York 8,175,133
Chicago 2,695,598
Houston 2,099,451
Dallas 1,445,632
Omaha 408,958
Knox 3,704
Necedah 2,327
IXL 51
total: 14,830,854
Grrr...formatting didn't work
DeleteN.E.W.Y.O.R.K
E...........M....N
C.H..I..C.A.G.O
E.....X....H.....X
D.A..L..L.A.S...
A....................
H.O.U.S.T.O.N
Uh, Thad, you're using Phoenix's population for Dallas'!
DeleteDallas' population is 1,197,816.
OMG. Hanging head in shame. Thank you for pointing it out. I did the puzzle at home, and tried to re-create it at work...unsuccessfully!
Delete14,583,038 is my answer
The use of Dallas instead of Phoenix is a perfect example of how a greedy algorithm doesn't always find the optimal solution. In this case, an initial loss of 247,816 allows for a later gain of 382,920, resulting in a net benefit of 135,104 over this solution.
DeleteThad's answer rendered as an image.
DeleteOk, here are the top 4 (as far as I know):
ReplyDeleteAt #4 (This was my FIRST submission, which at the time I THOUGHT was the ultimate):
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╟─H─╫─O─╫─U─╫─S─╫─T─╫─O─╫─N─╢
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─I─╫─C─╫─A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─┼─╫─N─╫─E─╫─W─╫─A─╫─R─╫─K─╢
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Houston 2,100,263
Barstow 22,639
Chicago 2,695,598
Newark 277,140
NewYork 8,175,133
──────────────────
Total: 13,270,773
At #3:
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─I─╫─C─╫─A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─H─╫─O─╫─U─╫─S─╫─T─╫─O─╫─N─╢
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╟─N─╫─E─╫─W─╫─Y─╫─O─╫─R─╫─K─╢
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╟─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─C─╫─┼─╫─┼─╢
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╟─M─╫─E─╫─M─╫─P─╫─H─╫─I─╫─S─╢
╚═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╝
Chicago 2,695,598
Houston 2,100,263
NewYork 8,175,133
Memphis 646,889
Antioch 102,372
──────────────────
Total: 13,720,255
At #2:
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─I─╫─C─╫─A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─┼─╫─A─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╢
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Chicago 2,695,598
Dallas 1,197,816
NewYork 8,175,133
Phoenix 1,445,632
Hialeah 224,669
──────────────────
Total: 13,738,848
And at #1:
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─I─╫─C─╫─A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─N─╫─E─╫─W─╫─Y─╫─O─╫─R─╫─K─╢
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Houston 2,100,263
Denver 600,158
Chicago 2,695,598
NewYork 8,175,133
Norfolk 242,803
──────────────────
Total: 13,813,955
#1 Total: 13,813,955
#3 Total: 13,720,255
──────────────────────
Difference: 93,700
ACROSS:
ReplyDeleteHOUSTON, MESA, CHICAGO, NEWYORK
DOWN:
MACON, WACO, NORFOLK
I went with a solution similar to Thad. Didn't notice Necedah.
ReplyDeleteI went with
HOUSTON
NEWYORK
CHICAGO
DALLAS
as across cities.
Tied together with
OMAHA
KNOX
ORR
SKY
And if we're allowing "ORE" for "Ore City" that can be thrown in as well, but I think that city is called "Ore City", much like "Kansas City".
I think my answer is a few hundred short of Thad's.
Ian, I just looked up Sky (disambiguation) on Wikipedia.
DeleteI see 22 listings under News corporation, 20 listings under "Other TV and radio stations", 4 Television series, 3 Television characters, 5 magazines, 4 bands, 4 albums, 1 song, 4 people, 2 listings under "Science and technology", 3 under Transportation, and 5 under "Other Uses"; NOT ONE REFERENCE AS A U.S. CITY or ANY CITY!!!
There's a site that has 26 pages of U.S. cities and towns. There's a Sky Missouri (must be small, because it doesn't have its own website). That's where I found Orr (Minnesota), Knox (four states) and Ore City (Texas). But this answer is going to come up short of the one Thad put together.
DeleteMy interpretation of the rules avoids New York.
ReplyDeleteP A D U C A H
H _ A _ H _ O
O _ L _ I _ U
E _ L _ C _ S
N _ A _ A _ T
I _ S _ G _ O
X _ _ _ O _ N
Chicago 2,695,598
Houston 2,099,451
Phoenix 1,445,632
Dallas 1,197,816
Paducah 25,024
Total 7,463,521
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DeleteWell played, Thad!
ReplyDeleteI had two possible answers:
PHOENIX
I--------L
NEWYORK
C-----------I
HOUSTON
---------E
CHICAGO
(That's Phoenix, New York, Houston, Chicago across and Pinch, Ely, Tea, and Rio down. Total Population: 14,429,008)
Unfortunately, Pinch is a technically a census-designated place and Rio is a village. So, my solution with narrowly defined cities and towns is:
HOUSTON
---------E
CHICAGO
O
PHOENIX
A-----L
NEWYORK
That dropped my total to 14,425,420.
Didn't spend enough time checking the possible benefits of Dallas for Phoenix. Thought the puzzle was really enjoyable. Maybe next time!
H * * S C I O
ReplyDeleteO * M * H * M
U * E D I N A
S * S * C * H
T E A * A D A
O * * * G * *
N E W Y O R K
City Population
New York, NY 8,175,133
Chicago, IL 2,695,598
Houston, TX 2,100,263
Mesa, AZ 439,041
Omaha, NE 408,958
Edina, MN 47,941
Ada, OK 16,810
Tea, SD 3,806
Scio, OR 838
Total: 13,888,388
@Natasha - The statement of the puzzle says "regular crossword fashion", which means spaces and punctuation disappear from the grid in multi-word names and phrases, IMO.
ReplyDeleteok. Thanks.
DeleteI had a hard time with this puzzle and topped out at about 13.7 Million, mostly because I remain morally opposed to Texas.
ReplyDelete-- Ben
Anyone able to top Thad's answer of 14,583,038?
ReplyDeleteN E W Y O R K
E _ _ _ M _ N
C H I C A G O
E _ X _ H _ X
D A L L A S
A
H O U S T O N
New York 8,175,133
Chicago 2,695,598
Houston 2,099,451
Dallas 1,197,816
Omaha 408,958
Knox 3,704
Necedah 2,327
IXL 51
Noooooo....I was so close! Don't know how I missed Necedah. I had all the others and Amo, pop. 401, instead of Necedah.
DeleteDid not consider towns smaller than 100,000, but got just shy of 14 mil with
ReplyDeleteH _ W A C O
O _ _ _ H _ N
U _ B O I S E
S _ _ _ C _ W
T U L S A _ A
O _ _ _ G _ R
N E W Y O R K
My "ghost town" was LOW, UTAH, but it added nothing. It fit between TULSA and NEWYORK.
DeleteI admit I did not work hard on this puzzle. Only used 5 cities and one of them was backwards. Hey "it's my crossword and I'll reverse if I want to"
ReplyDeleteI figure if NPR just randomly picks someone with a right answer, I could be eligible despite you 13 and 14 millionaires.
So:
* * H * C * *
* * O * H * T
* * U * I * U
* * S * C * C
E L T T A E S
* * O * G * O
L I N C O L N
Hey! I live in Seattle; and we are not Bcakwrads!
DeleteShould have read
ReplyDeleteHouston and Chicago down
and Seattle (backwards) and Lincoln (Nebraska) across for a total of 6,183,016
WW I loved your Kindergartner-future Smithie story
Backwards! I never thought of spelling a city backwards! And how appropriate, since Will's NY Times crossword today (like many Thursday puzzles) features backwards answers. Good thinking, RoRo!
DeleteI did not spend a lot of time on this and I suspected my total would not be the high one. Here is what I came up with:
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─ I─╫─C─╫─ A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─┼─╫─L─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─M─╫─┼─╫─A─╢
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╟─N─╫─E─╫─W─╫ Y─╫─O─╫─R─╫─K─╢
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╟─┼─╫─D─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─A─╢
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Chicago = 2,695,598 (1st row across)
Dallas = 1,197,816 (3rd row across)
NewYork = 8,175,133 (5th row across)
Houston = 2,100,263 (7th row across)
Aledo, IL = 3,640 (2nd column down)
Alamo, TX 18,353 (5th column down)
Akan, WI = 403 (7th column down)
Total, 7 cities = 14,191,206.
Ok, here is Thad Beier's winning entry shown using my box characters:
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╟─E─╫─┼─╫─X─╫─┼─╫─H─╫─┼─╫─X─╢
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╟─D─╫─A─╫─L─╫─L─╫─A─╫─S─╫─┼─╢
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╟─A─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╢
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╟─H─╫─O─╫─U─╫─S─╫─T─╫─O─╫─N─╢
╚═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╩═╧═╝
Across:
NewYork 8,175,133
Chicago 2,695,598
Dallas 1,197,816
Houston 2,100,263*
Down:
Necedah 2,327
IXL 51
Omaha 408,958
Knox 3,704
*Yes, I know that Will used 2,099,451 as the population of Houston in his example, but it's been discussed here that that was old, original estimate and that 2,100,263 is the more accurate, REVISED figure. Any the total is 14,583,850 or 14,583,038 using the outdated figure for Houston.
I already have my lapel pin -- I hope somebody else wins this week :)
ReplyDeleteOoh, Thad, can you take a picture of the lapel pin and put it in Instagram or DropBox and link to it? We all want to know what we're missing! ;-)
Deletehappy to! it only took ten years!
Deletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/97324121@N00/8020018268/
Thad, still a mystery! Might you change the sharing permissions on that photo in flickr so we may view it? Thanks!
DeleteThad, am I correct in concluding that you were NOT called today?
DeleteAnd if they didn't call you, then to whomever they DID call, would you PLEASE POST YOUR WINNING ENTRY to this blog!!??
Picture above is now viewable, sorry about that.
DeleteI was not called, but I sent in this entry after the deadline to help them out.
Thanks, Thad!
DeleteNow I have to keep submitting my answers...and consider a leather jacket to wear it on. Bet it has started a few fun conversations. . .
CHICAGO, HOUSTON, PHOENIX, NEWYORK and going down ACTON, ELY
ReplyDeleteTotal 14,442,805
Replace Acton, Massachusetts with Alton, Illinois for an additional 5,941 (27865-21924); this was one of my earlier answers.
DeleteColumn 1 down HOUSTON
ReplyDeleteColumn 5 down CHICAGO
Column 7 down MESA
Row 1 across WACO
Row 3 across BOISE
Row 5 across TULSA
Row 7 across NEWYORK
My total is 14,132,417, though I left off WACO on the version I sent to Ross, CrosswordMan (hey, it was early...).
RoRo, I also enjoyed your backwards clue! And you may be happy to know that President McCartney also enjoyed the story from last Friday. She seems like a great leader for Smith.
Bob K, I think you called it the My Weekly Reader crossword, yes? That made me smile (loved MWR).
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DeleteReplace Tulsa, Oklahoma with Omaha, Nebraska for an additional 17,052 (408,958 - 391,906); this was the first one I found.
DeleteSamo schmamo. Sal and I stopped at the 14,132,417 seven.
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ReplyDeletePlannedChaos, nice going on trading Tulsa for Omaha...Did you plan all this chaos in the three rapid-fire deleted comments ;-)?
DeleteNo, my post just wasn't initially appearing as an inline reply to your original comment.
Deleteplanned rhetorical question, humor attempt
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ReplyDeleteIf we allow common initialisms and abbreviations.
ReplyDelete8,175,133 NYC
3,792,621 LA
2,695,598 Chicago
2,099,451 Houston
1,526,006 Philly
1,197,816 Dallas
23,647 Galt, ᴄᴀ
——————————
19,510,275
Well, here's ONE WAY to arrange them together in a 7x7 grid:
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╟─┼─╫─P─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─D─╫─┼─╫─H─╢
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╟─C─╫─H─╫─I─╫─C─╫─A─╫─G─╫─O─╢
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╟─┼─╫─I─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─L─╫─┼─╫─U─╢
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╟─┼─╫─L─╫─A─╫─┼─╫─L─╫─┼─╫─S─╢
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╟─┼─╫─L─╫─┼─╫─G─╫─A─╫─L─╫─T─╢
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╟─N─╫─Y─╫─C─╫─┼─╫─S─╫─┼─╫─O─╢
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╟─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─┼─╫─N─╢
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Oh, and your total was over by 3.
Oops, fat fingers on the numeric keypad. Population total: 19,510,272.
DeleteAlso, no need for the text grid. See the image link in my original post.
Wow! I notice your arrangement was exactly the same as mine!
DeleteCould it be that, barring the transpose, that's the only arrangement possible!?
facepalm
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ReplyDeleteTo those you went to the Top Secret Mail.com site and tried to follow the conversation between Cam Barker and PlannedChaos; well, after trying total after total of all that's been posted today, I finally found the key!
ReplyDeleteThey were using 14132417, which was the total for Word Woman's answer using the revised figure of 2,100,263 for Houston, which I noticed is exactly Bryan's answer, but including MESA.
Anyway, using the link above and 14132417 for the Unique Key, you can decode Cam Barker's initial cipher and then follow their conversation using that same key each time.
I rechecked what Bryan's answer had been and realized that Word Woman's answer was actually an improvement of Bryan's answer, replacing NEWARK with MESA. An improvement of 161,901 (439,041-277,140)
Deletehi all-- i was the winner of this npr puzzle. my name is glen keenan, in des moines, ia. got a call from NPR yesterday, & recorded w/ will & rachel today.
ReplyDeletemy winning grid was:
Across:
(1st row) NEWYORK
(3rd row) CHICAGO
(5th row, starting 1st square) DALLAS
(7th row) HOUSTON
Down:
(2nd column, starting 5th square down) AJO
(5th column, starting 1st square) OMAHA
(7th column, starting 1st square) KNOX
by my calc, the total population for this grid is 14,584,776. (will stated the total population on the call, but i can't recall if it was exactly the same as my calc.)
turns out that i could've had 59 more if i'd also had IXL in the 3rd column, starting 3rd square down.
Congrats, Glen.
DeleteHope you continue to be a part of the blog.
Yes, congrats, Glen...and welcome!
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ReplyDeletefyi: during the taping, will said he didn't allow abbrevs like NYC (but he didn't specify whether he allowed abbrevs like STPAUL).
ReplyDeleteThe official 2010 census (from which my source list was compiled) didn't include Ajo, ᴀᴢ, so I never could have found the winning grid. Assuming that this week's winner was chosen on the merits, it appears that Glen's after-the-fact discovery of Ixl, ᴏᴋ would've made Crossword Man (AKA Ross) the winner, had he chosen to submit his entry.
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ReplyDeleteCongrats to Glen . I thought splitting words like New and York would be okay, since crosswords do that a lot.
ReplyDelete15,424,834
Across:
SANJOSE
LOS
Down:
ANGELES
HOUSTON
NEWYORK
BELL (CA)
Looks like this:
¬¬A¬H¬N
SANJOSE
¬¬G¬U¬W
B¬E¬S¬Y
E¬L¬T¬O
L¬E¬O¬R
LOS¬N¬K
New puzzle is up.
ReplyDelete"Name a brand of beer. Rearrange the letters to name an activity often associated with beer."
Submit your answer.
Oh Danny Boy!
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