Q: Name a place where many people go for vacation (3,10). Change one of the vowels sounds from a long A to a long E, and the result phonetically will be one reason to visit this place. What place is it?You can drop the first word and the puzzle still works.
A: THE SEYCHELLES --> THE SEASHELLS
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Cute puzzle. Congrats, Greg!
ReplyDeleteCongrats to our friend, Ecoarchitect (aka Greg VanMechelen). This is an excellent puzzle, as we would expect from this "designer of beautiful puzzles."
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Nearly 900 correct responses last week.
ReplyDeleteNot really a two-word place.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I was wondering...a little clarity would help so I could finish and go about my day. Is it a specific named location (e.g. San Francisco) or a general one ("the beach")
DeleteIt is a specific named place. But, like Mexico (officially United Mexican States), this place has an official name different from a couple of variations on its common name
DeleteMy wife raises an more important objection: this place is not a big vacation destination for NPR listeners.
DeleteI agree with Jan’s wife: the place gets vacationers, yes – vacationers that anybody around here knows, no. Although in fairness, the puzzle doesn’t state or infer that the tourists have to be from any particular area.
DeleteSo, the only answer I have been able to come to is what I think of as a one word place with the possibility of some people calling it a 2-word place when they refer to it. I personally have never heard it referred to with 2 words though.
DeleteThree weeks of Blaineville puzzle makers!
ReplyDeleteMy clue: 94.7
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DeleteWas this the worst on-air performance you can remember? By the contestant, I mean -- Will and Ayesha we about par.
ReplyDeleteThe puzzles were easy if you are familiar with baseball. Presumably the contestant wasn't, so I would cut her some slack.
DeletePutting aside stress, she also said she regularly does puzzles and such. I suspect, given the few items in Will's list and the numbering of the words on NPR.org (ranging from 1-11, but only 5 or so were asked) that Will cut the puzzle short due to time constraints.
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DeleteWell, PPOC, I see you have quickly removed your above post to which I was about to respond to, but I may go ahead anyway.
DeleteAlthough the guest was unable to answer any of the simple questions herself, the host, Ayesha Rascoe, was quick at the conclusion to declare her performance to be, "awesome." Prior to the on air presentation I read the questions on the NPR website and was surprised that only a few of the eleven questions were asked. My first thought was that I would have flunked this on line challenge due to my knowing little about baseball other than their proclivity to chew and spit and scratch their genital regions inappropriately, along with other strange behavior. However, I went on and read the questions and found them all easy to answer. I was not at all impressed later when I listened to the broadcast.
I will go further and report that I lately have found myself turning off my radio that is almost always tuned to my local NPR station because I cannot stand to listen to several of their recent female hosts who have high pitched, squeaky and annoying voices, not to mention the very low class Australian dialect which has such absurd inability to pronounce some, but not all, R's. I am in no way saying these hosts are not very intelligent and ask provoking questions, but I cannot help finding listening to their voices too much to put up with. Perhaps later I will also express my exasperation with their revolting advertising for money, along with begging for us to donate our cars. Oh, and did I forget to mention their constant reporting the comments by The Heritage Foundation, which is a fascist, right wing terror organization devoted to overthrowing all vestiges of democracy?
I miss the mellifluous NPR voices to which I had grown accustomed, especially on a Sunday morning.
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DeleteNatasha,
DeleteThanks, I also enjoyed your first post and wish you had not removed it. It says so much more that should be said. I hope you will re-post it.
SDB: Ok SDB, here it is. I tried to correct grammatical errors and repost and had error messages. So I just shortened it. Thanks for your message. I hoped you saw it. Here is the original:
DeleteI liked your last post. I also turn off NPR due to the annoying voices, begging for money and cars. It amazes me that announcers do not seem well trained in speech techniques. I had lots of instruction in speech in preparation for teaching. It seems that there is little comprehension about the rules of speaking to an audience. So disappointing.
Natasha,
DeleteThanks for re-posting your thoughtful message. I do not consider it necessary to correct blog posts unless they cannot be understood. If we here can solve poorly coined puzzles like this week's then we should also be able to get passed minor grammatical errors.
SDB: I tend to post before proof reading. I understand what you mean. As for NPR, I know they need support. I just do not like listening to them at that time. I hope they get lots of donations as it is important. Cars important to donate too. NPR was my favorite for so many years. I gave up on the puzzle this week. Not too often do I throw in the towel...even a hotel towel from a vacation.
DeleteOriginally public radio and TV were commercial-free. It was so refreshing. Now it has turned into a nightmare of greed just about like the other forms of broadcasting. The BBC, which does a far better job than we do, is commercial free and supported by taxes. We could do the same, and it would cost very little because the costs would be shared by almost all citizens, not just a tiny few. Of course then the Republicans would have a field day of demanding it be shut down for telling the truth, but so what? they do this anyway. And so we suffer this nonsense as it keeps even getting worse.
DeleteYou could try solving the one I posted below.
I love Ayesha’s speech. It’s not like mine. It’s most definitely not like other NPR ‘traditional’ hosts, announcers, news readers. Thank God.
DeleteNothing I can detect about Ayesha’s usage or speech in general is wrong. It’s less formal than, say, Steve Inskeep’s. And it’s loaded with distinctive AVE syntax and vocabulary, prosody and accent. Vive le difference!
It’s true that the BBC is a lot better than NPR in those ways. I fear that if NPR were fully funded by taxes, it would be captured by politics, and there would be stories they couldn’t pursue. The BBC has such a long and respected position in Britain that it doesn’t happen there.
DeleteCrito: Good to know your thoughts about the host on NPR.
DeleteI'm a little nervous to dive into these waters, but for what it's worth....
DeleteI find myself having real trouble with Ayesha Rascoe, but also with many other NPR hosts and show structures these days. I used to donate a great deal, not so much any longer. I've thought way too much about this, because I listen to/read/watch a lot of news and cultural programming and used to really love NPR.
First, the amount of advertising is just too much. Either the "powers" aren't really listening to their own programming, or the public simply feels much more accepting than I do of this.
I've also started recording and watching the BBC News (for America) on TV and it's quite good.
My Ayesha problem isn't about what I would call "American Black Vernacular" (and I'm sure someone somewhere would tell me not to use that term in 2023) but the depth of her Southern accent and the fact you can audibly hear her trying hard to pronounce words correctly, as if it pains her to do so, but failing. At a certain point, it's just too much struggle to listen, for me.
And I'm sure using the word "correctly" might offend some, but the day she pronounced NATO in a manner that rhymes with the Greek letter "beta," I gave up. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization does not rhyme with beta.
Anyway, I live in New York City where our Mayor Eric Adams speaks in an American Black Vernacular, as does Congressional Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. I can understand both of them without an issue.
NPR is falling apart, I think, but I do like the puzzle.
I can listen to NPR for a while, but eventually the commercials have a cumulative effect and I have to turn it off. Their political pundits provide some useful facts but the upshot is always that these facts "could" or "might" be important in 2024 or whenever. (How insightful!) Ayesha Rascoe is kind of fun to listen to, again, for a while, but I've become too tired of Scott Simon's fawning and formulaic interviews and editorial platitudes to listen Saturday morning anymore.
DeleteOverall, NPR is like democracy -- the worst thing on the radio except for everything else (not counting KUSC, which is wonderful if you like classical music).
Nodd, I think we are on the same page. I used to listen to NPR all day, seven days a week, but stopped listening to Scott Simon long ago for the same reasons you state. Now I am doing the same with the Sunday morning swill. I sometimes listen to the American BBC program and find it very informative and their interviewers are not afraid to push for answers to their questions. Deepa Fernandes on NPR's and WBUR's Here & Now, is the one I seem to be having the most trouble listening too, and I really do want to hear most of what they have to say, but the squeaking and squealing over to top Australian accent is just way more than I can take any more and I have to turn to our local classical music station. She would be great if she worked with a diction coach and especially learn to pronounce R's. And the constant gushing has got to go. Anyway I am going camping again in Eastern Oregon and tune out again for a few days.
DeleteI happen to be in love with Deepa Fernandes's voice.
DeleteGood idea, sbd. Everybody needs a break from the constant barrage of information from time to time, as important as it may be to try to stay informed. I should mention I like some of the NPR podcasts, which tend to have fewer breaks and more interesting topics.
Delete"AAVE" is what linguists call that dialect (that Ben calls "American Black Vernacular"). I mentioned it because it has a handful of syntactic variations from Standard American. They are not mistakes. It’s a different dialect with a slightly different grammar whose origins are unclear (see John McWhorter’s work on the historical linguistics, e.g.).
DeleteEric Adams clearly has a NYC accent. Like Roscoe's it is non-rhotic. But Adams, Roscoe, and all Australians, English people, South Africans, Georgians, and New Englanders, all of them do know how to pronounce the ‘r’ sound. (!!!) It is a part of those dialects that that sound is unpronounced when (i) it follows a vowel sound, and (ii) it doesn’t precede another vowel sound. (Thus, ‘cawfee at Stahbucks' in the Bronx, but ‘poRRidge’ in Norwich; ‘It’s no bothuh’ in Savannah, but ‘woRRied’ in Woolloomooloo …)
When I was growing up (in New York), I thought the American Southern accent sounded stupid. I guess the socioeconomic explanation for why I did is pretty plain, in retrospect. When I moved to New England, the mainstream (I guess blue collar Boston) accent sounded, not exactly dumb but low-class and humorous, basically the way it’s portrayed in SNL sketches. But now it’s utterly transparent to me – I don’t notice it. Whose accent sounds which way says as much about the listener as about the speaker.
[Laughing] if you find Ayesha's cadence and accent unpleasant, turn off the radio if I ever get "the call," as Ayesha is from Durham, NC, my former stomping grounds.
DeleteTo Crito's point, the Southern accent has long been used in popular culture to indicate someone who was unintelligent and we all have absorbed that over the years. I recall 20 years ago stumbling across a Biblical cartoon airing at some ungodly hour and in some parable about the common citizens not believing Jesus about something, the nonbelievers had hyuck-hyuck laughs and American Southern accents, just to emphasize how "dumb" they were for not believing. It's an old trope.
I used to listen to NPR all morning, but I have become less enamored with NPR over time because of the extent to which time is spent on cultural works (music, books) and sports, rather than what I think of as "news." It can be right after the top-of-the-hour news bulletin and they launch into a cultural item. I find myself listening to SiriusXM more and more...
As long as we're dumping on NPR, I heard a report by them on the UAW strike that referred to the Big Three: GM, Ford, and Stellantis. Stellantis? Stellantis is Chrysler's parent company. But, it isn't among the three biggest automakers, and neither is GM or Ford. Stellantis is #4 worldwide, behind Toyota, Volkswagen, and Hyundai.
DeleteJan, it refers to the United States, not the world. It's been in use since WWII.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(automobile_manufacturers)
I'm of an age where I remember when the biggest U.S. makes and the biggest worldwide makes were the same thing, when the U.S. produced three quarters of all the cars in the world.
DeleteI do like the puzzle, but this would be like visiting Niagara Falls to feel the mist.
ReplyDeleteCongrats Eco. Nice puzzle but easy. No lists needed this week.
ReplyDeleteGherkins
ReplyDeleteI thought of a hint, but it is hard to say what it is.
ReplyDeleteYep, I'm with you!
DeleteI will be out most of the day, but hopefully, I'll have time to think about this.
ReplyDeleteClever puzzle, though I’m not buying the reason for going to this place.
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ReplyDeleteA Beatles song comes to mind
ReplyDeleteOw, my writing hand is tired from all that crossing out. Fun clue, Rob.
ReplyDeleteGolly, thanks.
ReplyDeleteAnother puzzle I’m having a difficult time coming up with a hint for, although clever parasites do come to mind.
ReplyDeleteVictory! I got it. But if you go for this one reason, you may only look.
ReplyDeleteYep
DeleteSuits me. I have diverse interests.
DeleteI'm an avid SCUBA diver, so I'd visit for my DIVERse interests!
DeleteSwitch some of the sounds of the thing with the long E. You will get something that can happen to that thing.
ReplyDeleteShe sells seashells.
DeleteKim Kardashian ?
ReplyDeleteLes Miserables ?
needs work ...
C'est si bon!
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DeleteThanks to two nameless people whose wonderful clues helped me solve this puzzle.
ReplyDeleteAh! The gazebo is covered with vines!
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DeleteOops! Well, if Blaine deleted rickster's, I'd better delete mine too!
DeleteMusical clue: Method Man
ReplyDeleteNPR interview of Matheny has nice clip of Jaco with Judy Collins and Brecker for "Coyote."
DeleteSee if you can solve this one:
ReplyDeleteThink of something a visitor to Italy is almost certain to see. Spoonerize these two words to describe something many visitors go to Alaska to see. What are these things?
Is a large mammal involved somehow?
DeleteThat seems to work.
DeleteThere is a Spoonerism that is humorous that involves the animal I am thinking of though. I had not thought of it before just now.
DeleteSDB - On second thought, I realize that the large mammal does not quite work with the wording of your puzzle. (It might have if “to see” were replaced by “to do.”)
DeleteLorenze,
DeleteMaybe you have a good puzzle there. Anyway I am curious about what you came up with that I assume has something to do with hunting grizzly bears.
Well then, now we have the bear facts.
DeleteMy brain went to "bowler pear"/"polar bear", but then I remember Magritte's thing was an apple
DeleteI thought of bowler pear too, but I have not seen a pear wearing a British hat.
DeleteI just guessed polar bears and reasoned backwards to "bowler pairs" meaning bocce. I've never seen the game played in Italy, so was thinking pairs of teams. It was just a guess.
DeleteI also got into bears, trying to play around with bruins and ruins. Couldn't make it work. Looking forward to tomorrow!
DeleteSDB,
DeleteAlthough “white sales” are not uniquely Italian, they are a permanent and ubiquitous feature of the Italian economy. And, of course, many visitors go to Alaska to “sight whales.”
OH
DeleteLorenzo's solution doesn't work with the puzzle as written but it gave me a stepping stone.
(similar animal, specific type. The Italy piece wouldn't have occurred to me alone but google confirms it's a thing.)
Miriam,
DeleteSounds like you may have the intended answer. (Only SDB knows for sure!) I guess I am too oblivious of evolving transportation trends in Italy and other European countries to have made the leap from my near miss to what I think is your answer.
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ReplyDeleteCan anyone here explain why it is Republicans are fully supportive of the Second Amendment and the right to own firearms just as long at it does not involve the offspring of a United States President? Just asking, you understand.
ReplyDeleteJust hope Obama doesn't lead us into WW2 ... !!
DeleteYeah, SDB, apparently the POTUS's son is the one bad guy who shouldn't have a gun. No one else ever has lied on a gun application...
DeleteReminds me of an entrepreneurial pronunciation.
ReplyDeleteLooks like great minds were thinking along re selling seashells!
DeleteFinally got it! I spent too much time trying to think of places to go on vacation while on the road. I'm not surprised that I did not think of the correct place yesterday.
ReplyDeleteBlaine, alerting you to a few recent things....
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I have no more time to devote to this puzzle this week. Disappointing.
ReplyDeleteBack to clues to this week's puzzle, there is some evidence that the phonetic reason for visiting this place may have also been a reason for a certain Roman emperor having been assassinated!
ReplyDeleteSo I think I have the answer but I have never referred to this place with anything but the 10 letter part...
ReplyDeleteSame here. Sounds like a formulation an out of touch politician might say.
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ReplyDeleteI hope this isn't copyright infringement:
Deletehttps://fj.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electron_shell_006_Carbon_-_no_label.svg
It occurred to me this morning that there's an obvious connection to the recent "Old MacDonald" puzzle:
Deletehttps://shop.mattel.com/products/fisher-price-see-n-say-the-farmer-says-cbn98
And, in answer to Bob Kerfuffle -- If Gina Gershon grabbed a gallon of greenish gherkins, where's the gallon of greenish gherkins Gina Gershon grabbed?
The correct response just hit me. I can't believe I didn't get the answer sooner. My wife was born in this place, we were married there, and she just visited the location this summer.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. Did she grow up there? Wondering what it would be like.
DeleteYes, she grew up there and half of her family still lives there. I will describe the place for you after they reveal the answer.
DeleteThanks, I've never been there.
DeleteIt is very different from other tropical vacation spots such as Hawaii or islands of the Caribbean. For starters, it is much less crowded, even during peak tourism season. It is so remote there, they don't even know what McDonald's is. They do have hotels, but no huge resort complexes.
DeleteThat is so sad. When are the developers going to come and spoil the place? So many people; so few places left to destroy.
DeleteWhat may have thrown me off was the superfluous first 3-letter word.
ReplyDeletethat is definitely what kept me from getting it at first!
DeleteThis!
DeleteFinally got it. Good grief. I was going to go with waterfalls of The Great Lakes being "great leaks." :)
ReplyDeleteSharpen your #2-lead pencils and park your backpacks beneath your desks... Our friend ViolinTeddy has prepared a 21-question "Homographology Pop Quiz" that will test your knowlege of homographs (for example, a MINT is both “a sweet mentholly morsel” and “a money-maker”.)
ReplyDeleteThese posers appear in her stellar "Strad-Steiff-Subtleties" feature on this week's Puzzleria!, which we will upload at Midnight PDT, more or less, in the wee hours between Thursday and Friday.
Also on our menus this week are:
* a Schpuzzle of the Week titled "Icily idiomatic mixology,"
* an American Atlas Hors d’Oeuvre that challenges you to locate a prominent geograpical feature,
* a “Weaponizing Puzzledom” Slice titled "Gunplay, Swordplay, Wordplay,"
* a Just Deserts Dessert Slice titled “Maritime crime and ‘punnish’-ment,” and
* 19 riff-offs of this week's MPR puzzle (including 14 by our friend Ecoarchitect, that puzzle's author) titled "Seychelles seashells by the seashore."
LegoInvitesAllToJoinUsForSomeInvigoratingViolinTeddyVirtuosityAndEscheresqueEcoarchitecturalPerplexities
Dios ayuda nos.
DeleteDios ayuda a quienes se ayudan a sí mismos
DeleteLegoWhoRespondsInHisTerribleSpanish:"GraciasCreadorDePlantas!"
THE SEYCHELLES, THE SEASHELLS
ReplyDelete"94.7" >>> Seychelois are 94.7 percent Christian.
"Ah! The gazebo is covered with vines!" Bovines are hidden in this clue. The popular SEASHELL one is not supposed to take home from SEYCHELLES is the COWrie.
Go to THE SEYCHELLES → to collect THE SEASHELLS.
ReplyDeleteSey (say, long ā) Sea (see, long ē).
C'est (“say” long ā) si (“see” long ē) bon (good)!
THE SEYCHELLES -> THE SEASHELLS
ReplyDelete> Greg VanMechelen is one smart fellow!
True, but also an allusion to another tongue-twister.
> Not really a two-word place.
The CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia both refer to it as simply "Seychelles". No "The".
> My wife raises a more important objection: this place is not a big vacation destination for NPR listeners.
Among the top 10 countries sending tourists to Seychelles, the U.S. isn't.
THE SEYCHELLES (—> THE SEASHELLS)
ReplyDeleteHint: “Another puzzle I’m having a difficult time coming up with a hint for, although clever parasites do come to mind.”
“[C]lever parasites” —> SLY LEECHES —> SEYCHELLES.
In 2018, the presence of the marine turtle leech, heretofore found normally in the Atlantic coast of the US and in the Gulf of Mexico, was recorded for the first time in the Seychelles.
The Seychelles islands and seashells
ReplyDeleteI wrote, “Write down the place and the reason. If a letter occurs more than once, strike out all instances of that letter. Rearrange. You get something else to go see in the place.” That’s CAY.
ReplyDeleteMy marker: Gherkins.
ReplyDeleteBecause a gherkin is a pickle.
Because Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
Because that suggests another well-known tongue twister. I couldn't very well post "She sells sea shells at the sea shore" knowing that would be immediately taken down.
So, The Seychelles, the seashells.
The Seychelles, the seashells
ReplyDeleteThe Seychelles, the seashells. I said I thought of a hint but it was hard to say what it was, referring to the tongue-twister, "She sells sea shells ...."
ReplyDeleteThe puzzle wording only asked us to name the place, not the reason to visit. Do you think people were excluded for only listing The Seychelles?
ReplyDeleteOne time about 2009 I ordered prescription drugs from there. Know I've named it in a Jeopardy question time to time. As for being on my itinerary, due to economic constraints, that will wait awhile!
ReplyDeleteI posted on Mon Sep 18, at 10:45:00 PM PDT:
ReplyDeleteBack to clues to this week's puzzle, there is some evidence that the phonetic reason for visiting this place may have also been a reason for a certain Roman emperor having been assassinated!
There is evidence that Emperor Caligula, having advanced his army to the shores across England, ordered his soldiers to collect seashells. He was assassinated by soldiers of his soon after and that may well have been a big reason for their doing so.
Huh, I forgot to give a clue this week.
ReplyDeleteIt was a particularly easy puzzle, but still, congrats to Eco-Greg!
I would have thought of this sooner if it hadn't been for the fact that I have always just referred to this country as Seychelles. "The Seychelles" makes sense given that it's a country made up of islands, but I had personally never heard it referred to as such.
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ReplyDeleteI believe the Seychelles are considered part of Africa. Anyway, I must confess that I first heard any mention of the Seychelles was on NPR's Car Talk.
ReplyDeleteYou mean the female caller named "Seychelle."
DeletePossibly. Maybe definitely. Wow! Maybe you be Hawk-EAR!
DeleteLOL That caller's name really stuck in my memory since my wife is from Seychelles.
DeleteSeychelles, sea shells
ReplyDeleteLast Sunday I said, “Thanks to two nameless people whose wonderful clues helped me solve this puzzle.” To Blaine for explaining that you only needed to look for a 10-letter answer, not necessarily 13 letters. And to rickster who wrote the since-removed phrase, “…she sells...”
I was not able to solve this clever puzzle. I agonized all week. So glad I'm now out of my misery.
ReplyDeleteTHE SEYCHELLES and THE SEASHELLS
ReplyDeletepjbAlsoThoughtOf"TheEverglades"AtFirst,JustLikeMiriam
Ditto on Everglades.
DeleteMy censored comment, following "c'est si bon", was "
ReplyDelete"say what ?"
Why was it censored?
DeleteMy apologies to those who may be waiting for my answer to the puzzle I posted up above. I just got back from camping in Oregon and could not figure out how to post the following via my cell phone which I hate. If no one here was able to solve it, then perhaps Will was right to reject it.
ReplyDeleteThink of something a visitor to Italy is almost certain to see. Spoonerize these two words to describe something many visitors go to Alaska to see. What are these things?
Answer: A Rome nun & A Nome run
The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race, more commonly known as The Iditarod (/aɪˈdɪtərɒd/), is an annual long-distance sled dog race run in early March. It travels from Anchorage to Nome, entirely within the US state of Alaska.
ReplyDeleteGood one SDB. Solid puzzle. You stumped us all. Much better than the near misses
White sales > sight whales (mine) and white rails > right whales (which I think was Miriam’s answer).
Lorenzo,
ReplyDeleteGlad you at least appreciated it. I received Will's rejection just over 2 minutes after I sent it. Maybe he thought it too difficult.
You know, the Italians consider it bad luck to see a nun. Touch metal.
ReplyDeleteThis week's challenge comes from Sid Sivakumar, who's one of the top crossword contributors for the New York Times. Name a major U.S. city in two words. Change the first letter of the first word and the next-to-last letter of the second word. Then rearrange all the letters to name the people who live in this city. What city is it?
ReplyDeleteDemonyms can be weird. People in my city are Cantabrigians; people in my state are Bay Staters.
ReplyDeleteLiterally the first city I thought of. No need for Duck, Duck, Goose.
ReplyDeleteEasier than I thought it would be. Hard to see a good clue, though.
ReplyDeleteI have an answer, but it only works for a singular person who's an inhabitant of the city, not the plural "people who live in this city."
ReplyDeleteSo no one else thought "coat" as in 'coat of paint" and "cowl" would constitute a valid answer? I shoulda known.
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