Sunday, March 16, 2025

NPR Sunday Puzzle (Mar 16, 2025): Eight Letter Island

NPR Sunday Puzzle (Mar 16, 2025): Eight Letter Island
Q:
Name a famous island in eight letters. Remove three consecutive letters. The letters that remain, in left-to-right order, will name where many islands can be found -- but not this one. What is this island, and where can't it be found?
Who has been scouring lists of islands or bodies of waters?

Edit: I must admit I spent too much time with lists of actual islands and types of waterways while the parts of the answer couldn't be found on either of those lists.
A: ATLANTIS, ATLAS

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    1. Sorry, Blaine. It was left up for a long time so I thought it was okay. Evidently not.

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  2. I posted this on last week’s thread: “I have an answer that works, but I'm skeptical that it's a ‘famous island’. Then again, I had my doubts about Tron as a movie, let alone a ‘classic’.”

    In any case, on NCAA Selection Sunday, I wish hoop fans on the blog good luck and hope that, when all is said and done, you nailed ‘em. Then again, year in and year out, the tournament makes fools of us all, “expert” and novice alike. As sportscaster Warner Wolf put it, “Nobody knows nothin’. No-bo-dy.”

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    1. When I submitted the Jon Stewart puzzle, I didn't call them "classic" movies. Will added that. BTW todays island is in one of my favorite movies.

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    2. How about Ran then? A true classic! And don't forget Saw! There are literally at least twenty more, if they don't have to be "classics."

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    3. Mcneillfarm, I was referring to Amity Island which doesn’t fit today’s puzzle and may exclude Jaws from Al’s favorites list.

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  3. I wasted a lot of time scouring lists of islands. This feels familiar, but I can't find it in the archives.

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  4. Gonna call my travel agent about scheduling a trip there.

    (And well done Lego, a great addition to your collection.)

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    1. I am surprised, but you make it clear that I gave too much away!

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  6. Very nice, lego. Took me a while!

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    1. There's a certain familiarity to it, though...

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  7. Hmmmm...Well it's not Sri Lanka, Sanka. That one I can eliminate.

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    1. So, I'm the only one seeing islands in my Sanka...?

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    2. Did you say Sanka? You're welcome.

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    4. Please delete that, Noah!

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    5. So sorry! I really should know better than to try to make jokes before I’ve made the solve.

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    1. Sorry, but I don't see how that could give anything away.

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    2. I see it. There's an odd, unintended hint I think.

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    1. First there is a comment, then there is no comment, then there is …

      Perhaps Blaine saw a retired space shuttle in my suggestion to acknowledge a bright star. My actual intent was somewhat more roundabout (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCLFtxpadE). I was thinking of a “nova nod”, which is an anagram of Donovan, who recorded “Atlantis” in 1968.

      Is an island merely the peak of a mostly submerged mountain?

      From Wikipedia:
      The Atlas Mountains are a mountain range in the Maghreb in North Africa. It separates the Sahara Desert from the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean; the name "Atlantic" is derived from the mountain range, which stretches around 2,500 km (1,600 mi) through Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia.

      Take heart, Tuvalu!

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  10. Another good one Lego, even though I thought of an answer very quickly.

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    1. A number of the posts above pointed me in the right direction.

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  11. Got it! I've been to this place, but long ago! Nice puzzle, Lego!

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    1. I must have a different answer

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    2. Not necessarily. I'll explain on Thursday.

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    3. You might enjoy reading the 400+ page book I am about to finish tonight, but it would be TMI for me to say more now.

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    4. I stayed across the street from this place. It's complicated.

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    5. Ooooh.
      It's possible I've been there too. Hm. I have my doubts, but it might fit. But a long time ago, like Ben -- in fact I'm almost sure it was before Ben.

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    6. Ben, you and I may have the same clue in mind. More on Thursday.

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  12. I've ruled out the Gulf of America (in more ways than one). 😂

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  13. Speaking of islands, my favorite all-time memory of this blog was the week when "Three Mile Island" was the answer and TMI was TMI.

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  14. Re the on-air puzzles: it took me three tries to realize Babe Ruth "brought fame to the Yankees". The first name that came to mind was Brooks Robinson, but he was an Oriole, of course. Bobby Richardson played for the Yankees, however.

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  15. Took me a while to get the idea, but overall, a really fun puzzle! Thank you, Lego.

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  16. Congratulations, Legolambda! Maybe I'll meet you at the island some day! --Margaret G.

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  17. Good puzzle, I had to scour the globe for this one.

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    1. Blaine also said scour, but I don't see a connection...

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  18. Remove two consecutive letters and rearrange to spell a notable person in history.

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  19. The answer to this puzzle is a word that Joseph Young must like.

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    1. Joseph Young created the Atlas Shrugged->gals, daughters puzzle on December 16, 2018.

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  20. That is true, Bobby... but then again, there are not that many words that I do not like!
    Thanks, Blainesvillians, for all your kind and encouraging words about my puzzle this week...
    That said, my "Schpuzzle of the Week" on this week's Puzzleria! is a much more timely puzzle:
    Schpuzzle of the Week:
    “Celebratory subtraction adds to holiday fun”

    Name two annual celebrations. Remove the five letters of one celebration from the sixteen letters of the other one.
    Two words will appear: one associated with Christmas, the other with Halloween.
    What are these two celebrations?
    What are the words associated with Christmas and Halloween.?
    Hint #1: Neither one of the two celebrations contains abbreviations.
    Hint #2: If the two words associated with Christmas and Halloween do not appear, during the removal process try removing the 3rd and 15th letters instead of the 7th and 10th letters.


    LegoWithGratitudeToBlaineAndThoseWhoContributeToHisExcellentBlog

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  21. Change the last letter to name another place where you won't find it

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    1. jan, I was going to post: Don't be so sure, but I saw you got there first. I wish I could say more, but too early for that. Good puzzle.

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  22. Nice puzzle, Lego! I am not sure right now whether I've been there or not; if so, it would have been a long time ago.

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  23. This is one of those puzzles that is easy to solve, once you think of the right island. As soon as I did, the solution was obvious. It was a pleasure to work on a puzzle that was not so easy for a change.

    I do not want to visit this island, at least not until they remodel.

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  24. Oh, I should have thought of this clue right away:
    The island and I share something literary!

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  25. After reading Blaine's clue, I had an aha moment which led me to the correct list. Blaine I hesitantly ask, TMI?

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  26. I know of someone on this blog whose name is used as the titular name in a past movie. Anyone know the title of the movie?

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    1. Ooh! Ooh! Was one a TV miniseries in 1994? And another (unrelated) action movie in 2020?

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    2. I was going for "Scarlett", but that works too. 😉

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    1. Clark,
      Of all the words I think I might be,
      Last on that list are “Bright” and “Mighty!”


      HenryWadsworthLegofellow

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    2. Lego, Be that as it may, your puzzle was great!

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  28. I recently traveled to a place that, when reversed (ie, read right to left) names where this particular island can’t be found. Nice puzzle Lego!

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  29. I can remove the same letters that are referred to in the puzzle and rearrange to get the last name of a well known American author that sounds like a bodily organ.

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  30. My first reaction when the answer hit me (assuming I am correct) was : 'very sneaky, Lego." That's not a hint (which I'm no good at), just a comment.

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    1. (just a quick Plato shout-out)

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    2. Yes, I thought any explicit reference to Plato would be tmi.

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  32. Brilliant puzzle, lego!

    I just solved it—and exhaled—and my first answer, to which I referred in my comment above, does satisfy the conditions of the puzzle except for the “famous island” one. So I gather it’s at best a weak alternate answer.

    Well done, lego!

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  33. My friend, Joe, has a satisfying puzzle here, to be sure. And BTW, as Crito observed above, “There’s a certain familiarity to it, though…” So I researched it and found that there is, indeed, a second cousin to the puzzle floating around. Not a close relative, but in the same family. Explain Thursday.

    Anyway, as far as this week’s puzzle goes, if you take a common initialization, move one letter forewards in the alphabet and rearrange, you get the three consecutive letters mentioned in the puzzle.

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  34. B R E A K I N G G N U S

    Donald Trump has just filed papers in Miami changing Mar-a-Lago's name to Mar-a-Dacha.

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  35. Finally, I got it. Actually, I hope I'm not going out on a limb, but Dr. K's last clue led me to it. Indirectly, of course. Until then, I was lost. Here's another clue: Jan Berry, of Jan and Dean, had his own take on this.

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  36. I just came up with this without even trying. You may like it or groan.

    Imagine for a moment you are the captain of an ocean going sailing ship in the 1800's, and your parents come aboard so they can travel to Europe on the cheap. So the question is: where do you put them?

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    1. Do you let the folks sail in the fo'cs'le?

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    2. Well of course. Where else would you put them? They can hole up there.

      BTW, if you want to have a better understanding of what a fo'cs'le (forecastle) is, I suggest reading Two Years Before The Mast, by Richard Henry Dana Jr. It is not a novel, but a memoir, and a masterpiece of American literature.

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  37. Ready for a bit of delightful discombobulation, courtesy of our friend Bobby? This week's Puzzleria! is proud to present Bobby's wonky "Wicked Wonka Appetizer," titled "A Mystery Movie Character." It will appear just a bit later today on Bobby's ever-popular-and-entertaining "Puzzle Fun by Bobby Jacobs" feature. Your mission (with a little help from your friend Bobby) will be to identify the mystery character and movie title.
    Also on our Menus this week:
    * a Schpuzzle of the Week titled “Novelist, carry me far far away...”
    * a Holy Hors d’Oeuvre titled “Hear no evil, see no evil... Cuss!”
    * a Pluraliterary Slice titled “Double digits, Triple creatures,”
    * a Delicious Dessert titled “Packing patriotic picnic baskets,” and
    * fourteen riffs of this week's NPR puzzle, titled "Not one of the Thousand Islands!" (including six riffs from Nodd and two from Plantsmith!).
    All are invited to drop by and sample the conundrumulous fun fashioned from the fecund gray matter of Bobby Jacobs and the rest of our Gifted Gang of Enigmologists!

    LegoClimbingBobbyJacob'sLadderUpIntoPuzzleLovers'Paradise!

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    1. Also, I want to thank all who were complimentary of my puzzle on NPR this week. I sent it to Will Shortz a few months more than a few years ago... So like a new wine-at-the-time it has perhaps improved over those months thanks to the aging process.

      LegoAmateurVintner

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  38. ATLANTIS, ATLAS

    "Finally!" That's AT LASt.

    "ID "In his 1882 book, "Atlantis, the Antediluvian World," the writer Ignatius Donnelly (ID) argued the accomplishments of the ancient world (such as metallurgy, language and agriculture) must have been handed down by an earlier advanced civilization, as the ancients weren’t sophisticated enough to develop these advances on their own." (from Wiki)

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  39. ATLANTIS —> ATLAS

    Hint: “Leitch” —> singer Donovan (Leitch), who in 1968-69 released the song “Atlantis”

    My “weak alternate answer”: MADELINE, MAINE
    (Madeline is an island in Wisconsin, not exactly “famous,” I realize. Maine, however, does have thousands of islands.)
    Btw, my March Madness comment included the phrase “nailed ‘em,” an anagram of “Madeline.”

    Congratulations again, Lego!

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  40. ATLANTIS - NTI>>> ATLAS

    While you find many islands in an atlas, they typically don’t include fictional ones.

    My comment on wanting to SCHEDULE a trip rather than saying I wanted to BOOK one and my compliment to Lego for his puzzle COLLECTION of puzzles, vs. his LIBRARY of puzzles were both worded to avoid TMI.

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  41. ATLANTIS – NTI = ATLAS

    To get from Atlantis to atlas, take a common initialization, TMI, move a letter one position forward in the alphabet and rearrange, you get the three consecutive letters required to be removed by this puzzle: TMI --> TNI --> NTI.

    Earlier this week I said: “My friend, Joe, has a satisfying puzzle here, to be sure.” But as Crito observed, “There’s a certain familiarity to it…” So I researched it and found that there is, indeed, a second cousin of the puzzle floating around. Not a close relative, but in the same branch of the family.

    The other puzzle was aired 8/28/22: Name a well-known island. Move the first letter six spaces later in the alphabet. Read the result backward. You'll get where this island is located. What island is it? MALTA --> ATLAS

    There are a few similar elements between the 2022 puzzle and Joe’s puzzle, which is why it sounded familiar, but it’s not a direct descendant. The similarities are coincidental.

    Joe runs a great puzzle web site and is a fantastic puzzle creator. Also, according to Will, he’s a “frequent contributor” to the Sunday challenge. He wrote a great, new, fun puzzle for us this week and – judging by the compliments above – I’m sure everyone here enjoyed it as much as I did.

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  42. ATLANTISATLAS

    My clue was:

    I am not sure right now whether I've been there or not; if so, it would have been a long time ago.

    Plato (who, of course, was key in depicting the island of Atlantis) believed a person's soul was immortal, and continually reborn in subsequent bodies. The idea behind my clue was the notion that, if I have been to Atlantis, it would have been in a long-ago former incarnation of my soul.

    Again, good one, Lego!

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    1. My clue is connected to that one! I said,
      "The island and I share something literary!"

      In the Timaeus and Critias, Plato discusses Atlantis. And in the Crito, he discusses me. (But I'm not fictional.)

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    2. I initially had another literary clue in mind—I thought about posting something like, "The puzzle had me stumped at first, and I was about to shrug it off," but that would probably have been TMI.

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  43. I wrote, in a comment Blaine deleted, “Take the name where many islands can be found. Put a letter at the end. You get two words indicating my feeling at finally getting the answer.” That’s AT LAST. My apologies again for giving anything away.

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  44. You won't find ATLANTIS in an ATLAS.

    > I wasted a lot of time scouring lists of islands.

    Because, of course, it doesn't exist.

    > It's off the coast of Florida. [deleted]

    ATLANTIS, the fourth Space Shuttle, is on display at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex on Merritt Island. ATLANTIS PQ is a deepwater oil platform in the (also imaginary) Gulf of America.

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    1. Yeah, the "Gulf of America." I just came back from a vacation in Mexico. The in-flight on-screen map on my flight there had it as the "Gulf of Mexico," and so did other maps in museums I visited. Of course. My hope is for this insanity to be reversed come 1/20/2029.

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  45. Atlantis, Atlas. In my post I "out on a limb." This was a reference to Shirlet Maclaine's 1983 bio of the same name. That kicked off a lot of new age Atlantis awareness. I also said "lost " That was a reference to the "lost" continent of Atlantis. Dr. K left a clue: Leitch. This is the not too well known last name of singer Donovan, who had a popular song called Atlantis. My reference to Jan Berry, of Jan and Dean was in relation to another Donovan song called, The Universal Soldier, a poetic war protest song. Jan Berry had a reactionary answer to that song with his song The Universal Coward. It got very little airplay. My point was to lead someone in the direction of Donovan, and ultimately to his song, Atlantis.

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  46. Couldn't get Islets of Langerhans to work ...

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  47. ATLANTIS minus NTI = ATLAS

    Both of my hints were removed by a blog administrator.

    By coincidence I was reading Dancing In The Light, by Shirley MacLaine earlier this week and in it she chronicles several of her previous human incarnations, including on Atlantis. Most Westerners do not believe Atlantis actually existed, but it really did.

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  48. My television clue was "Mark". Mark Harris was the name given to the amnesiac man played by Patrick Duffy on the short-lived science fiction series "Man from Atlantis". In the storyline, he was believed to be the only surviving citizen of the lost civilization of Atlantis.

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  49. I looked over Jordan and what did I see
    A band of angels coming after me
    When I looked closer I could tell everyone in that band was smoking weed too.

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  50. I had a different answer. An island called Earthsea, a fictional island written about by Ursula L. Le Leguine. If you remove sea and get Earth because it's a fictional island and so wouldn't be found on earth.

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    1. Good one! Did you submit that answer? If you did, I'll be curious to hear whether WS acknowledges that as an alternate answer.

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  51. I had commented: I do not want to visit this island, at least not until they remodel.

    I'm assuming that Atlantis has sunk too deep down for me to survive, since no one has found the remains of it. More importantly, remodel anagrams to Delorme, a brand of atlas (and I own several).

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  52. In one of my favorite movies, Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959) they end up in Atlantis

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  53. ATLANTIS — ATLAS

    I clued that I've been to this place, but long ago! because there is a fancy pants hotel and resort in the Bahamas called Atlantis. I've never actually been a guest, but they have a pretty amazing aquarium and water park and when I was in the Bahamas I did visit Atlantis.

    Apologies to Wolfgang and to Matt if I threw you off with my clue, which was a wee bit intentional.

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    1. No need to apologize, Ben! :)
      I misinterpreted your "long ago" clue: Plato (who famously depicted Atlantis) believed a person's soul was immortal, and continually reborn in subsequent bodies. I thought that's what you were getting at (you having been to Atlantis in a prior incarnation of your soul). I posted my own "long ago" clue alluding to that! ;)

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    2. That's the place I thought you meant!
      Decades ago, I stayed on Paradise Island, which is where the Atlantis resort is now. I stayed at a Holiday Inn, just a few hundred yards from the Atlantis (which had a different name and ownership then).

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    3. Like you, Ben, I’ve visited Atlantis but was not a guest.

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    4. I thought the Atlantis resort, in the Bahamas, was what got Jan’s comment. “…off the coast of Florida…”,DBA’d.

      Blaine???

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  55. I am surprised so many believe Atlantis is a myth and could not have existed and then sunk into the ocean. I suspect they will see it differently after Trump and Musk finish sinking our country, they thought was indestructible.

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  56. I just sent a request to Mother Nature to dismantle Mar-a-Lago.

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  57. SDB, here's a puzzle to riff on your riff. Anagram MAR-A-LAGO to get a synonym for Pam Bondi.

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  58. Ben, I cannot comment below your post. I rebooted and it still will not respond. Maybe here will work.

    ORAL MAGA?

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  59. She looks like she has the I.Q. of an M&M.

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  60. I am unable to respond to any posts now. And I am running 2 separate computers. Is this a Blog issue, or an ET invasion?

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  61. Now that everyone else has released their "ATLANTIS ==> ATLAS" submissions, here is the submission I gave:
    Auckland Island can not be found amongst the Ã…land Islands, which are at the entrance to the Gulf of Bothnia in the Baltic Sea.

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    1. That was my intended, Nodd! Well done.

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    2. At her Press Conference this week, Bondi noted that “The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended,” a factually true yet amoral statement, given that the crimes committed on January 6, 2021, as well as the pardons for those crimes, are now behind us.

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    3. The last letter of her first name, the first two and last letters of her last name, and an extra B spell out how she got that job.

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  63. Wolfgang, I could not use the reply mode to answer your question, but yes I did submit EARTHSEA minus SEA.

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  64. Me, too, though I recognized that "Madeline" did not seem to qualify as a "famous" island and eventually came up with Atlantis --> Atlas. See my comments above.

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  65. Oh, thanks. Sorry I missed your comment. "Famous" I guess if you're from the rural midwest :-)

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  66. I really missed the boat on this one. My answer was Bali Hai.

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  67. Good morning.
    Today I'm going to grill you on the news.
    What famous boxer died yesterday at age 76?

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  68. This week's challenge comes from listener Dan Asimov, of Berkeley, Calif. In English the two-letter combination TH can be pronounced in two different ways: once as in the word "booth," the other as in "smooth." What is the only common English word, other than "smooth," that ends in the letters TH as pronounced in smooth?

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  70. I have two common English words that end in TH, pronounced as a voiced dental fricative.

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  71. I have one answer, but I'm not confident it's the intended one. I'll think about it and post a hint to mine in the next thread.

    But it's really interesting -- I hadn't noticed before that that sound powerfully resists coming at the end of words. You can get it phonetically on the end very easily by adding an 'e', like 'teethe' (and lots of others), but not with the bare 'th' at the end.

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    1. Well, right, obviously -- Will gave that exception!

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    2. Didn't listen. Lots of words fit that pattern.

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